Malaysia Airlines 777 missing

Murdoughnut said:
That does see more feasible. Maybe a dumb question, but would a fire be just as potent at altitude with a depressurized aircraft? I mean is there insufficient enough O2 at FL350 that if you had a depressurization, it would quell the fire, maybe enough that it burned itself out?
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That is one of the reasons why Lithium Ion batteries are so scary. When the start burning they create their own fuel, including oxygen.
 
Derg said:
This Asian on Asian hate has to end, @tonyw!
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Hey, Malaysians do not look anything like TRUE Asians. Sheesh, man, you guys really do think we all look alike.

No, being serious, it's really been a giant poopstorm there. It's ridiculous.

They may be trying to save face, but the way this is developing makes them lose face.
 
Murdoughnut said:
That does see more feasible. Maybe a dumb question, but would a fire be just as potent at altitude with a depressurized aircraft? I mean is there insufficient enough O2 at FL350 that if you had a depressurization, it would quell the fire, maybe enough that it burned itself out?
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Speaking from the perspective of looking at fuel tank ignition (not as a fire expert), I think there is a point around 18k-20k feet where the partial pressure of oxygen drops low-enough that the ignition energy becomes impractically large to cause ignition (from, say, an electrical spark in wiring). That probably doesn't translate well to a lithium battery that having a thermal runaway and spewing it's own oxidizer(?).
 
You gotta get it right. Any time when you want to question whether or not someone is serious, you say.

"Surely you can't be serious."

And for crazy, whacked out speculation, how about this? Aliens. In a few days, the plane will emerge out of nowhere. The plane will be fine. However, the passengers and crew will have this happening to them.

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mrivc211 said:
are you being serious?
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Cessnaflyer said:
Yeah they were showing video of him with his simulator and said he is more knowledgable then your average captain so he could possibly hijack his own plane. Big face palm.
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See, and it is because of how retarded they sound when they're doing these aviation stories that right off the bat I assume they're just as clueless with everything else they "report". Precisely why I haven't watched the news in years...I look for facts online when I hear about something that interests me.
 
SeanD said:
CNN doesnt feel the local population of those chain of islands knows what they are saying when they say "A plane DID NOT LAND HERE"
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"But there's a grass strip right there? And you see those Cessnas sitting next to the trees? Are you saying it's not here? Because we think the captain used his home simulator to practice landing his 777 at this grass strip and hide it in the trees while Islamic terrorists equip it with a dirty bomb because OMGGGG TERRORIZZZMMM!!!"

'murica...
 
Minuteman said:
That probably doesn't translate well to a lithium battery that having a thermal runaway and spewing it's own oxidizer(?).
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Correct. Lithium Ion created fires don't "go out". HALON doesn't do a thing against them. Once it starts that's pretty much the end until it runs out of it's own juice. UPS has found that out twice now.
 
Inmarsat has made a press release on their website stating routine messages were sent from MH370 via their SATCOM network. They do not specify a timeline, and redirect to Malaysian airlines:
http://www.inmarsat.com/news/inmarsat-statement-malaysia-airlines-flight-mh370/

Wall Street Journal has updated the story indicating the 4 hours of pings DID include location and altitude data! And that officials at Boeing stated Malaysian airlines never got the messages via Inmarsat because they failed to subscribe to that package. What a cluster!
http://online.wsj.com/news/articles...0001424052702304185104579437573396580350.html
 
After almost a week with no new information, no valid witness reports of a crash and no debris discovered, do most people think that the aircraft is on the ground someplace?

I know that there is no evidence to support that, but you'd think that a crash and/or the debris would have been seen. And we now have two days of news that the aircraft was transmitting something for several hours after it disappeared.

As incredible as it sounds, isn't this the most logical explanation at this point in time?
 
inigo88 said:
Inmarsat has made a press release on their website stating routine messages were sent from MH370 via their SATCOM network. They do not specify a timeline, and redirect to Malaysian airlines:
http://www.inmarsat.com/news/inmarsat-statement-malaysia-airlines-flight-mh370/

Wall Street Journal has updated the story indicating the 4 hours of pings DID include location and altitude data! And that officials at Boeing stated Malaysian airlines never got the messages via Inmarsat because they failed to subscribe to that package. What a cluster!
http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304185104579437573396580350?mg=reno64-wsj&url=http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304185104579437573396580350.html
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Wow.
 
US Officials say the plane "likely" crashed now, according to CNN, but took one of TWO routes after the Malacca Straits.

Seriously?! What is with the constant conjecture? There's ZERO indication the plane crashed, and ZERO indication they landed intact... nobody knows. Or if they do, then release how they know that.
 
amorris311 said:
While initially I agree with your response I think it would be good to know what Boeing charges for that service.
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Fair enough, I'd also be interested in how many large customers have opted out. After this accident, I wonder if MAS will re-visit the idea of purchasing the service...
 
canadian_atc said:
This "Southern Route" takes it very near Diego Garcia, there must be some high quality PSR radar systems there
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I'd assume that if it came anywhere near Diego Garcia we would have tracks of it or whomever.

Also again the Malaysians contradict seemingly everyone. The Journal states that Boeing said they didn't subscribe to the service but Malaysia says they have in place all maintenance monitoring. Its frustrating, is the language being used or is it intentional?
 
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