Malaysia Airlines 777 missing

RobertB said:
Maybe this is my terminal only experience speaking, but there is no way I can say with absolute certainty I would see a primary only target going 300+ knots (between 2-3 in the morning) even if they flew right over the busiest airport in the world because there is nothing going on at that time so there is nothing continuously drawing your attention to the scope. We see all arrivals hundreds of miles away so you know if you need to be more aware or less aware of everything going on in your airspace.
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Understood.

Our midnights here are relatively busy (10-15 airplanes at all times) minimal complexity but you're always watching.

We have little access to prime, but a constant prime target moving at 300+ knots on a constant track would be hard to miss for us (because our system disables almost all "fake" prime targets) and if it's travelling over 100 knots the target appears larger, and the symbol is bolded.
 
....However, veteran pilot Kit Darby, president of Aviation Information Resources, told CNN's Wolf Blitzer that the looming pilot shortage could still explain everything:....
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FIFY.


There I was, eating lunch with my wife at a nice little deli. I saw KD and Wolfie together on tv. I figured the Day of Reckoning was upon us. Lost my appetite.

Soooo... it took them this long to figure this out? "Hey, we're looking in the wrong body of water." Somebody had more info and wasn't sharing.
 
This is ridiculous the Malaysian authority has alot to answer to, how could they not know the acft was more than 100 mile off course having 20 ship an 40 acft in the wrong area. Somebody aint telling the truth
 
Shane Wiliams said:
This is ridiculous the Malaysian authority has alot to answer to, how could they not know the acft was more than 100 mile off course having 20 ship an 40 acft in the wrong area. Somebody aint telling the truth
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Just because a search is occurring in a wrong area (the flight planned area, to boot...only known place TO search in the absense of other info), in regards to a situation where there is little to no facts on location; does not a conspiracy make.

Without there even being an inkling of evidence of what happened to this plane, there also isn't any linking evidence of a crime yet either. Right now, with people hungering for answers, they're grabbing at whatever shiny object they can see, or otherwise coming up with conclusions that have zero evidentiary backing. I get it that pilots and the like don't like not having answers.....having that "unknown" pall lurking over the room......but that's exactly whats going on now. And shooting blindly in the dark hoping to hit an answer, won't solve the puzzle either.
 
MikeD said:
Just because a search is occurring in a wrong area (the flight planned area, to boot...only known place TO search in the absense of other info), in regards to a situation where there is little to no facts on location; does not a conspiracy make.

Without there even being an inkling of evidence of what happened to this plane, there also isn't any linking evidence of a crime yet either. Right now, with people hungering for answers, they're grabbing at whatever shiny object they can see, or otherwise coming up with conclusions that have zero evidentiary backing. I get it that pilots and the like don't like not having answers.....having that "unknown" pall lurking over the room......but that's exactly whats going on now. And shooting blindly in the dark hoping to hit an answer, won't solve the puzzle either.
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Man cut the crap, how could they not know the acft turn back, the military had a primary radar that could track it,even if the ADBS and SSR is out. This turn back argument was purported as early as saturday and we are only now confirming it. Do you realize how much resources was wasted searching a 100m off.
It takes less than 5 minute to do a playback
 
Shane Wiliams said:
Man cut the crap, how could they not know the acft turn back, the military had a primary radar that could track it,even if the ADBS and SSR is out. This turn back argument was purported as early as saturday and we are only now confirming it.
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Cut the crap? The only crap here is coming from you who is throwing darts in the dark and drawing conclusions towards something that there is ZERO evidentiary basis towards. You know, evidence, the things that professional investigators use?

Information comes in time. And if the Vietnamese Navy was going off the flight planned route of the 777, then it's no surprise that they were searching where they were.

Act on evidence, not on supposition. Even speculation has to be based on some kind of evidence.

Do you realize how much resources was wasted searching a 100m off?
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Seeing as how I do SAR, yes I do. But that happens. Break of the game when there is little to go on.
 
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I am convinced already we will never know. Too much saving face, misinformation, bull•tery, too many moving parts and none of them good.

Months from now bits will wash up on shore somewhere perhaps, which will lead to nothing further. The end.
 
cezzna said:
I am convinced already we will never know. Too much saving face, misinformation, bull tery, too many moving parts and none of them good.
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Maybe... But Boeing is a REALLY big company with a whole lot of pull around the world and if this is anything other than a simple mechanical failure you can be damn sure that they will do everything they can to make sure the full story gets out and stops the finger from pointing at their airplane design.
 
BobDDuck said:
Maybe... But Boeing is a REALLY big company with a whole lot of pull around the world and if this is anything other than a simple mechanical failure you can be damn sure that they will do everything they can to make sure the full story gets out and stops the finger from pointing at their airplane design.
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That's why I am thinking we aren't getting the full story on the ACARS data from the aircraft.
 
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