Malaysia Airlines 777 missing

Quick question... If the plane was hijacked (transponder being turned off, changing course, etc.) and a country deemed it a threat resulting in military action (shooting it down), would the data assume the plane was at the surface of the earth when it stopped transmitting data (loss of power, fire, etc.) resulting in a 40,000 foot drop in roughly one minute?
 
At this point...is it wrong to say I'm hoping for a hijacking?

If the plane was in fact hijacked and taken to some remote place, then at least the passengers would have a fighting chance. Rather than if we got new that it was blown up and found in the ocean.
 
This news is spreading across global news sources. Multiple media outlets are saying Malayasian Authorities have concluded the plane was highjacked or flown off course by the pilots. Seems like they beleive with malicious intent. If this is right they are clearly not sharing everything with the public, which they don't have to. I just hope they are sharing most if not all their information with other countries such as the U.S. and Australia.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2014/03/14/malaysia-airlines-search/6409061/
 
I am just catching up on today's news but I noticed that they are referring to recordings of Malaysian military radar after initial loss of contact and change in course. After that, I haven't seen any mention of recordings, such as documenting the over-flight or beyond.
 
Trip7 said:
The transponder turned off and the plane reversed course and flew for 5 hours based on Pings ID'd by the Satellite Company that receives the data even with transponder turned off. USA has strong evidence that plane is at the bottom of the Indian Ocean.
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Not only that, but the Inmarsat SATCOM system continued to "handshake" its way through four hours worth of westward travel following the deliberate and systematic deactivation of the ACARS and transponder. The puzzling statements made about the SATCOM ping messages being in a "standby" state - ready to send ACARS data but none going through - makes a lot of sense if you consider it in context.

If the ACMS/ACARS box feeding the data to the SATCOM is purposefully deactivated but the SATCOM radio itself is overlooked, it will automatically continue to try and maintain a link with the strongest Inmarsat satellite, but it just won't have anything to send!

Pilot Fighter said:
Please respond to my post. In the absence of the ACARS data, which is still being parsed and interpreted, what evidence do you base your opinion on?
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I believe you are still operating under the assumption that the ACARS messages were inconclusive, and I invite you to read post #1348 on page 68. The latest reports indicate the ACARS was actually cut off around 1 am (prior to the transponder being turned off), and the Wallstreet Journal was quick to correct its initial engine monitoring ACARS statements yesterday to what has developed into this SATCOM tracking issue - i.e. his source first told him ACARS and then corrected it to SATCOM. The NDTV article I quoted goes into considerable detail regarding the SATCOM handshake process and even explains it in layman's terms. The act of tracking an airplane based on SATCOM affiliation and handshake records is unprecedented and sounds like it has never been tried before, hence the ambiguously large search area.

Between the primary radar returns indicating the plane was last seen crossing over the west end of the Malaysian peninsula, and the SATCOM pings, investigators now believe that it could have either flown over India (unlikely due to their air defense system and the high possibility of intercept), or turned south into the Indian ocean and potentially ran out of fuel. This latest Reuters article is only about 20 minutes old:
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/15/malaysia-airlines-pulses-idUSL3N0MC01X20140315
 
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jgheggie said:
At this point...is it wrong to say I'm hoping for a hijacking?

If the plane was in fact hijacked and taken to some remote place, then at least the passengers would have a fighting chance. Rather than if we got new that it was blown up and found in the ocean.
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I've been hoping it was a hijacking pretty much all along. Something Jim Nance said today is disturbing though. One reason he can think of for taking the aircraft above service level is to decompress the cabin and fly up there long enough until the PAXs' O2 runs out.
 
BeReal said:
I've been hoping it was a hijacking pretty much all along. Something Jim Nance said today is disturbing though. One reason he can think of for taking the aircraft above service level is to decompress the cabin and fly up there long enough until the PAXs' O2 runs out.
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I hadn't thought of that because I thought they reported it "temporarily" ascending that high?

If that's the case...no good ;(
 
RobertB said:
How far is Diego Garcia from where the aircraft was last thought to be?
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We have a flight that goes from Singapore to Diego Garcia and its about a 4.5 hour flight for our 757.

That being said DG is a big air force base. I don't understand why any hijacker would fly a stolen aircraft to a US air force base...
 
BeReal said:
I've been hoping it was a hijacking pretty much all along. Something Jim Nance said today is disturbing though. One reason he can think of for taking the aircraft above service level is to decompress the cabin and fly up there long enough until the PAXs' O2 runs out.
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Oh man is that a disturbing thought...
 
titansox said:
We have a flight that goes from Singapore to Diego Garcia and its about a 4.5 hour flight for our 757.

That being said DG is a big air force base. I don't understand why any hijacker would fly a stolen aircraft to a US air force base...
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What if the intent was to crash it into the base? What if the US took action and ended the threat? Would the US tell the world that they shot the hijacked plane down? I know these are all what ifs, but really not far fetched.
 
jgheggie said:
I hadn't thought of that because I thought they reported it "temporarily" ascending that high?

If that's the case...no good ;(
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Nance thought 10 to 15 minutes would be all it would take.

If that's what happened, I hope they did crash into the Indian Ocean afterwards and whatever their intentions for the hijack were foiled.
 
RobertB said:
What if the intent was to crash it into the base? What if the US took action and ended the threat? Would the US tell the world that they shot the hijacked plane down? I know these are all what ifs, but really not far fetched.
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Certainly a possibility but they would have expended just about all their fuel getting out there and I'm sure the Air Force has the best technology available out there. For such a sophisticated hijacking this seems to have been, that seems like a bit of a lazy, and not well thought out end game (relatively speaking, of course)....
 
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