[logshare.com] this is what about 5 hours gets you

How in the world could somebody POSSIBLY legitly log time in a Navajo when they were 11 and actually recieve legit instruction in how to operate the aircraft?

11 guys. You know what I was doing at 11? Picking my nose and playing nintendo like everybody else here.
 
John Herreshoff said:
11 guys. You know what I was doing at 11? Picking my nose and playing nintendo like everybody else here.

So you're saying that people are functionally retarded until, say... 14?
 
John Herreshoff said:
How in the world could somebody POSSIBLY legitly log time in a Navajo when they were 11 and actually recieve legit instruction in how to operate the aircraft?

11 guys. You know what I was doing at 11? Picking my nose and playing nintendo like everybody else here.

Oh hell John, I was drivin' flat bed trucks full of hay bails to the General Store when I was 11.

Yeah, legitly is the operative word there. Okay, question time. If Alex could answer all things Navajo in an interview, would it be kosh.?
 
I'm saying at 11 there's no way you can be flying a Navajo around. It's like an 11 year old yelling, "But I flew the 737 on flight simulator!!!!!" It just ain't the same.

And if I were doing the interview, no it wouldn't be good enough. How many hours of dual in a Navajo? 100? No thanks man. I've got something like 5 hours of dual in a Seminole from when I did my multi engine rating. If I had something over 15 I think it'd start to raise red flags.
 
AP2B said:
Oh hell John, I was drivin' flat bed trucks full of hay bails to the General Store when I was 11.

Yeah, legitly is the operative word there. Okay, question time. If Alex could answer all things Navajo in an interview, would it be kosh.?

As an interviewer, when the first few entries you see someone logging multi-time in an AERO COMMANDER 560-E at the age of 11....That is going to raise a red flag. Yes it is legal, but again it is quality vs. quantity.

I wonder how a state government would feel about someone giving instruction to an 11 yr old in a state owned aircraft....

The press would have a field day. :eek:

Remove Alex from the equation and we would still be having the same argument. This has morphed more into an argument about logging time.
 
Citationkid said:
I wasn't in Flying, some kid named Mark was;) I'm not trying to be uptight, but after thread after thread of the same people saying the same thing about my dual time, it gets a little old to be honest. Epecially when they call me out in public (or in a thread like this). It looks much more like an attack than a genuine concern. Now if some one truley cares, I probally won't have any probleming telling them through a PM.

Have a good night,

Alex.


Are you getting uncomfortable, Alex? Is it starting to feel a little like FlightInfo.com? :) Where will you go next?


I don't know what your aspirations are in regards to a career in aviation, but if you have hopes of flying professionally, you might take the criticism raised about your dual time to heart. If I were you and I were applying for a job some day down the road, I might consider keeping the logbook you have as a souvenir, and beginning another that doesn't show the time you've been riding along with Mommy. At some point in time you began to reap a slight benefit from the hours, but honestly, before that you were just a passenger. Lucky passenger, to be sure, but a passenger just the same.




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TonyC said:
Are you getting uncomfortable, Alex? Is it starting to feel a little like FlightInfo.com? :) Where will you go next?


I don't know what your aspirations are in regards to a career in aviation, but if you have hopes of flying professionally, you might take the criticism raised about your dual time to heart. If I were you and I were applying for a job some day down the road, I might consider keeping the logbook you have as a souvenir, and beginning another that doesn't show the time you've been riding along with Mommy. At some point in time you began to reap a slight benefit from the hours, but honestly, before that you were just a passenger. Lucky passenger, to be sure, but a passenger just the same.




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Tony,

I have always respected you, although we've nevered talked one to one. My main reason for not being concerned is basically that I don't plan on flying for a living any more. If I'm unable to fly for the two companies that all of this shotgun time is with, then I'll go into business instead. I find nothing at all attractive about the 121 or 135 world. I did not feel like discussing this but what the hell if it'll end the arguement I guess it won't hurt to say!

Alex.
 
Sounds like his mind is made up, leave him alone. Quit busting his balls, I am pretty sure he can make his own decisions. Good or Bad. This was supposed to be a Logshare thread, more to compare and share experiences. Not be a life coach for Alex.
 
His time is legal per the FARs so leave him alone. I wish i was as lucky as him. The FARs may not be true to reality in some cases, maybe this one, but its what we got.
 
I don't know dick about 121 or 135 interview logbook assesments. I'm sure the time logged after the PPL matters most. It didn't seem to me like it would be that big of a deal for him to log it. At it's most basic form it's a record of one's time spent flying/training in aircraft throughout one's life. I could see that much dual raising some questions later on, but if it can be legitimately explained...Guess that will be up to the interviewer. Still, spending most your young adult life in and around airplanes should count for somthing.
 
How does a thread started by someone else sharing his logshare logbook turn into trying to tell this kid how to fly and how to live his flying life I'll never understand
 
Probably from concerned professionals and concerned non-professionals who have learned from those concerned professionals.

Anyway, logbookpro is sweeeeet.
 
Champcar said:
How does a thread started by someone else sharing his logshare logbook turn into trying to tell this kid how to fly and how to live his flying life I'll never understand

Take your pick.....thread creep, evolution, .....
 
I'll go against the grain and say it's great citation kid has logged all that time. It's legal time, and despite being quite young he may very well have gained a lot from the experience. If he has the knowledge and skill to back up his flight time then more power to him!

If, down the road, an interviewer is uncomfortable 'counting' that time toward his totals, then that is something the company can worry about.
 
Talk about thread creep or evolution. This would be a great thread for some "streamers" to creep in and defend their 250 hours of airline pilot deserving time:p, or whatever.

I know that's JUST what everyone wants.:argue:
 
Chris_Ford said:
So you're saying that people are functionally retarded until, say... 14?
If he isn't, I am. It's normal cognitive development. It isn't until around that time that people grow out of concrete thinking and become capable of abstract thought.
 
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desertdog71 said:
What does Professional mean?


I meant aviation professionals(Getting paid is my def.). I don't get paid to fly yet, but I'm learning from those that do. And I'm learning from those that don't get paid, but have learned from those that do. Clear as mud?
 
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