Living the dream part III

Sure, I try to plan so as to minimize their use, but saying not to use speed brakes is like saying "don't use ailerons". It's a control surface of the airplane. Slippery airplane and poorly designed arrival or needs of ATC can necessitate the use of a bit more every once in awhile...
 
I like speed brakes. They're operationally expeditious. I hear the CRJ side has an attitude about them, though.
 
GypsyPilot said:
Been flying it for 5 years at your employer, and really nobody cares.
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JustinS said:
No attitude that I'm aware of. Used as needed here. Never have any issues with CAs.
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I would say about 98% of the captains I've flown with were on the CRJ before coming over... I'm only repeating what I've heard from them—which is why I said "I hear."

I have no other frame of reference, aside from your comments; it's good to hear that that (is not) / (is no longer) the case.

-Fox
 
I'm a flaps 1 kinda guy. More drag, less noise, doesn't shake the plane as much. And we don't have "spindles" anymore on the NG. If Boeing didn't want you using flaps 1 for drag why does VNAV automatically lock into geometric when as soon as you select flaps?


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Years ago, while flying with one of my favorite captains, I noticed she always pulled the brakes over a particular geographic location, whether they were necessary or not. I finally had to ask: "'Sup wid that!?"

She went on to explain that when she was an FO, one of our captains gave her a hard time about using the brakes. For 15+ years now, she pulls them right over his house....

"WHHHOOOOOOOOO!"

Brilliant!
 
I flew with an FO the other day who deployed the speed breaks...FULL speed breaks. I looked down, shocked, looked back up to him, made eye contact and gave him a really approving thumbs up. Everyone is scared to pull that lever all the way down.

Me: "we are still really high and they are going to turn us in pretty tight. Throw the boards out and lets get down."

FO: *uses about half spoilers*

Me: "No throw them all the way out"

FF: "But it's really bumpy and the passengers might not like it..."

Me: *sigh*
 
I've been in the back on my plane when the crew used full boards... It's not nearly or noticeable as it is to us. If I use anything, I tend to go half, because in experimenting, half board gets me 85% of the effect of full board, and half board applied earlier is as effective as full board late. But if you need full board, FULL BOARD IT IS!
The passengers will have no idea that the bumps are your fault, but... they will blame you for the go around...
Are we still talking about whether or not it's okay to use a flight control surface that the manufacturer certified and put on the airplane for some reason? Because that's crazy, right? Obviously they put it there so that nobody would ever use it.
My only qualm is if you have boards out and power up (outside of an icing/bleed required type situation).
 
poser765 said:
I flew with an FO the other day who deployed the speed breaks...FULL speed breaks. I looked down, shocked, looked back up to him, made eye contact and gave him a really approving thumbs up. Everyone is scared to pull that lever all the way down.

Me: "we are still really high and they are going to turn us in pretty tight. Throw the boards out and lets get down."

FO: *uses about half spoilers*

Me: "No throw them all the way out"

FF: "But it's really bumpy and the passengers might not like it..."

Me: *sigh*
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You know what passengers don't like?

Go arounds because of unstable approaches.
 
Richman said:
Hahahahah....yea...um, no.

If I'm flying within parameters (SMAC, as we Northies used to say), then what I do is what I do. If someone want's to be a micro-manager, then "it's your leg chief, let me know when you want the gear"....

Fortunately, my current airplane is extraordinarily tolerant of less than stellar planning....
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"We had SOPA! We had SMAC! Everything was perfect! We were never bankrupt!" :)

*poke* *poke* *poke*
 
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