Little rant...

Jshutt64

Well-Known Member
Disclaimer: This rant is about a certain air traffic controller. I honestly love 99.9999% of controllers, so nobody take this the wrong way.

Sooo....

Last night I was taking a buddy flying for the first time. We cruised around LA for about an hour, saw all the sights, and decided to make it a day. We're about 10 miles or so north of the field, and I make my initial call.

"Long Beach Tower, Cessna 4203P, 10 miles to the north, 1,800, inbound to land 25R with Bravo."

"N4203P, Long Beach Tower, squawk 1234." (don't remember the code)

"Squawk 1234, 03P."

As soon as I heard the voice, I muttered an obscenity to myself. This controller is well known at LGB for his unpleasantness, and I was hoping that I could get on the ground with little to no conflict.

A minute or so pass by and he tells me to turn left to steer the 45 to the downwind of 25R. I acknowledge. In downwind, he tells me that he'll call my base. A little weird considering there is no traffic around, but whatever.

He calls my base on what will be 3 mile final. Not cleared to land, but I'm assuming it's coming. At about 1.5 mile final, I make a call.

"Tower, is 03P cleared to land?"

"N4203P, negative, runway 25R unable, turn base for runway 25L."

An f-bomb drops in the cockpit. No traffic around whatsoever, and now I'm going to have to taxi for straight days. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and assume there was a legitimate reason, but the condescension in his voice just irked me to the extreme.

I turn base for 25L. About halfway there:

"N4203P, turn direct to the numbers"

I do it, my frustration mounting.

"Tower, is 03P cleared to land 25L?"

The controller, clearly annoyed:

"N4203P, yes, you are cleared to land runway 25L."

"Cleared to land, runway 25L, 03P."

"N4203P, YOU ARE CLEARED TO LAND RUNWAY 25L, NOT 25R."

I acknowledge, even though I'm sure that I said it right the first time.

25L is a little hard to see at night, as the REILs and the PAPI don't work, but I landed uneventfully. I asked my buddy to pull out a taxi diagram so I didn't get too lost on the epic trek back to my airplane's tie-down spot.

"N4203P, turn right at inactive 34L, contact ground."

I acknowledge, then start to look for 34L up ahead as I move.

"N4203P, HURRY UP AND GET OFF THE RUNWAY, exit 34L, contact ground."

I got clear of the runway, and it never felt so good to switch frequencies. I was met on ground with one of LGB's nicest controllers...which was such a huge breath of fresh air.

Now, there was very little traffic around when this controller made me do this whole roundabout. But, that's not why I'm upset, as he very well could have had a great reason I just wasn't aware of. It's because he has such a bad attitude, and it just seems to rub off. He's incredibly condescending and demeaning and treats all pilots like complete idiots, whether it's a relatively low time GA pilot like myself or a Jet Blue FO. It tainted a great flight on a beautiful night.

Whew. Rant over.
 
We've got a guy like that over here in Daytona. His nickname is "Elmer Fudd." We've talked to some other controllers and evidentally he's a Puerto Rican from New York City. How do we know? We hear this, "RIDDLE FAW FAW SUVENNNNNN I SAY AGAIN SIR YOU AHHH CLEEAHHHED TO LAND RUNWAY SUUUVENNN LEFT." One day the student didn't reply fast enough so we got a very loud and long "HUUUUUULLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO" on the frequency. Very unprofessional. When he's on the frequency, he gets angry with students then I have to take over which makes the student to learn nothing.
 
"RIDDLE FAW FAW SUVENNNNNN I SAY AGAIN SIR YOU AHHH CLEEAHHHED TO LAND RUNWAY SUUUVENNN LEFT."

I had my students rolling when I did all of my sim ATC voices in that guy's voice.

I'd throw them curveballs too. "Riddle tree sephen nynah you ah cleared eye elles sephen left, yah sistah is fat chahh-ges too much, cawntact towah one too seeroh poynt fife."
 
We had a guy like that at CAK. Enough people complained and eventually he left CAK. Calling and complaining works.
 
We've got a guy like that over here in Daytona. His nickname is "Elmer Fudd." We've talked to some other controllers and evidentally he's a Puerto Rican from New York City. How do we know? We hear this, "RIDDLE FAW FAW SUVENNNNNN I SAY AGAIN SIR YOU AHHH CLEEAHHHED TO LAND RUNWAY SUUUVENNN LEFT." One day the student didn't reply fast enough so we got a very loud and long "HUUUUUULLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO" on the frequency. Very unprofessional. When he's on the frequency, he gets angry with students then I have to take over which makes the student to learn nothing.

That guy is cool, but then again I dont go to Riddle.
 
I have dealt with this same • at LGB myself. one time I was with an IFR student in an Archer. I tell my student to request a tower enroute clearance back to CCB. We contact clearance delivery and its "this guy"... after my student makes the call, the controller comes back on and says "say again type of aircraft, There is no such thing as a PA28 /A"
So my student comes back and says we are a "Piper Archer /A" The controller, without even a hesitation, tells us to figure out what type of aircraft we are before we call him for a clearance. He had very rude, condescending tone. Unbelievable.

At this point I get on the radio and ask him what the problem is. I told him again that we were a PA28-161 /A, and thats it. He said, "Unless you know what type of aircraft you are flying, I cannot give you a clearance".... so I switched to ground, got taxi, and left VFR. Turns out that the controllers put "P28A" into the computer for a "PA28" I didnt know that, and had used PA28 with ATC a million times without a problem.

This guy is a real jerk
 
We hate Todd and we don't even have to work with him all day like his fellow controllers.

Now, for a true story from a reliable source. I'm not even joking, this is true:

He was on Who Wants to Be a Millionaire a few years ago. He arranged to have all his friends at his place so when he called a friend they would be ready to answer for him. The person with the key to his place never showed up so when he phoned a friend nobody answered.

The question was what is the Eastern most US capitol (Bangor Maine). (for $500,000) Someday when he is working clearance I'm going to ask for "flight following to Bangor Maine, the eastern most capitol, so I can see a friend who called."

To add salt to his wounds the million dollar question was "Which letter designates US registered aircraft?"

Any time he gives me an unnecessary delay I ask him. Why are you unable 25R? He certainly isn't allowed to interfear with air commerce. If things get really ugly just turn off the radio and squawk 7600. I did that to him once when he refused to acknowledge me when I was inbound on the ILS in IMC.

For the record, Todd drives a black Acura NSX and has red hair and glasses. You know, just in case you ever see him and want to say 'hello.'

BTW, one of the lovely ladies from the LGB tower got to go for a ride in the B-17 today, just because she asked. It was perfect, I was so happy for her. The rest of them are the best and a a great group of people to be around!
 
We hate Todd and we don't even have to work with him all day like his fellow controllers.

Now, for a true story from a reliable source. I'm not even joking, this is true:

He was on Who Wants to Be a Millionaire a few years ago. He arranged to have all his friends at his place so when he called a friend they would be ready to answer for him. The person with the key to his place never showed up so when he phoned a friend nobody answered.

The question was what is the Eastern most US capitol (Bangor Maine). (for $500,000) Someday when he is working clearance I'm going to ask for "flight following to Bangor Maine, the eastern most capitol, so I can see a friend who called."

To add salt to his wounds the million dollar question was "Which letter designates US registered aircraft?"

Any time he gives me an unnecessary delay I ask him. Why are you unable 25R? He certainly isn't allowed to interfear with air commerce. If things get really ugly just turn off the radio and squawk 7600. I did that to him once when he refused to acknowledge me when I was inbound on the ILS in IMC.

For the record, Todd drives a black Acura NSX and has red hair and glasses. You know, just in case you ever see him and want to say 'hello.'

BTW, one of the lovely ladies from the LGB tower got to go for a ride in the B-17 today, just because she asked. It was perfect, I was so happy for her. The rest of them are the best and a a great group of people to be around!


Augusta is the capital of Maine ;)


And for the record I work with a couple people who can be a-holes and it ticks me off. I am polite and issue greetings to all arrivals and a "safe flight" to all departures if I have time. I do this for 2 reasons: 1) There are times when I need your(pilots) help to make something work and I am more likely to get it from a pilot who doesn't think I am a turd 2) I would want to be treated the same way.
 
Augusta is the capital of Maine ;)


And for the record I work with a couple people who can be a-holes and it ticks me off. I am polite and issue greetings to all arrivals and a "safe flight" to all departures if I have time. I do this for 2 reasons: 1) There are times when I need your(pilots) help to make something work and I am more likely to get it from a pilot who doesn't think I am a turd 2) I would want to be treated the same way.

Geeerr... Got crossed up there. His answer was Bangor... Disregard!
 
Oh yes, Todd, the one person at LGB who can ruin any great day just because he's speaking.
The fact is that he is a control freak. I've never met him in person, but, if I did I would have to guess he's 4'7" tall because he's got a huge case of Napoleon Syndrome!
Maybe it's time LGB does another pilot's satisfaction survey so we can all complain about him by name again.

My favorite Todd quote of the past few months is:
"48E inbound ILS Rwy 30"
"Cessna N3048E, use your complete tail number!"<Insert pretend deep voice here>
"3048E, inbound ILS Rwy 30"
"Cessna N3048E, use your complete call sign!"
"N3048E 1/4 mile final, are we clear to land 30?"
"Cessna N3048E circle to land 25L"
And there was nobody behind us to land 30!!!
Got to LOVE TODD<insert sarcasm here>!
 
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