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Thanks for the reply, and thats great to hear. I'm now committed on making the jump over knowing I can financially clear the first year. Sending app out ASAP, fingers crossed!
 
cactusjuba said:
Thanks for the reply, and thats great to hear. I'm now committed on making the jump over knowing I can financially clear the first year. Sending app out ASAP, fingers crossed!
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Just wanted to make sure. The training contract is for their investment in your training and type rating. You pay back the prorated amount if you leave early (within the first 12 months after your checkride). It's not an extra "bonus" that you get like some of the other regionals are offering.

In any case, good luck with your app! Sounds like classes and class sizes will be picking up starting September.
 
Overjump said:
Just wanted to make sure. The training contract is for their investment in your training and type rating. You pay back the prorated amount if you leave early (within the first 12 months after your checkride). It's not an extra "bonus" that you get like some of the other regionals are offering.

In any case, good luck with your app! Sounds like classes and class sizes will be picking up starting September.
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Correct.
 
Gotcha. Thanks for clarifying the specs of the deal. I wouldn't be jumping ship in less than a year, so for my own planning purposes it seems like a decent deal.
 
Overjump said:
Just wanted to make sure. The training contract is for their investment in your training and type rating.
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This is why first year pay is so low. Training contract on top is overkill. Probably one of my biggest issues with Compass.
 
Maurus said:
This is why first year pay is so low. Training contract on top is overkill. Probably one of my biggest issues with Compass.
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Who has lower first year pay? XJT or CP? I'll give you a hint, it's where you currently work. The training contract is a carry over from the days when CP was the ONLY regional handing out ATP/PIC types to new hires. It's not for reasons like great lakes.
 
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ClarkGriswold said:
Who has lower first year pay? XJT or CP? I'll give you a hint, it's where you currently work. The training contract is a carry over from the days when CP was the ONLY regional handing out ATP/PIC types to new hires.
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You may get 2k more in first year pay but your contract is behind in many other ways. Pay isn't everything. That said, the first year pay still sucks at $25/HR and at this point a training contract is overkill since Compass does not offer anything extra.
 
Maurus said:
You may get 2k more in first year pay but your contract is behind in many other ways. Pay isn't everything. That said, the first year pay still sucks at $25/HR and at this point a training contract is overkill since Compass does not offer anything extra.
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Ok you can believe what you want. There is more to offer like jumping from 1st year pay to $70 second year when you upgrade, but let's get hung up on a training contract. The contract isn't bad either, not as good as XJT but better than quite a few places. Where would you jump to if XJT didn't work out? I understand not being able to jump because of financial reasons but the training contract is not a big deal.
 
Maurus said:
You may get 2k more in first year pay but your contract is behind in many other ways. Pay isn't everything. That said, the first year pay still sucks at $25/HR and at this point a training contract is overkill since Compass does not offer anything extra.
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I guess the many former XJT FO's I have recently flown with here disagree.

I was at a Comair which had supposedly good contract for many years and I am much happier at Compass then I was there. I am quite pleased with many areas of the contract over the supposedly industry leading contract my former regional had.
 
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ClarkGriswold said:
Where would you jump to if XJT didn't work out?
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I have said it before. I will go back to cargo before touching a regional again. I refuse to make less than 30k for a 6th year of my career. Preferably I'll reach out to some aeromedical peeps I know that make 65-70k/yr. I'm done with poverty wages (factoring in my loans).

Also a 1 year upgrade is likely an impossibility for new hires.
 
Maurus said:
I have said it before. I will go back to cargo before touching a regional again. I refuse to make less than 30k for a 6th year of my career. Preferably I'll reach out to some aeromedical peeps I know that make 65-70k/yr. I'm done with poverty wages (factoring in my loans).

Also a 1 year upgrade is likely an impossibility for new hires.
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Well you can keep thinking that if you want. It's already at 26 months and July 13 new hires are 18 people behind that last awarded person. The need for captains due to flow and new airplanes delivered by Nov 2015 is larger than what we have currently on property.
 
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ClarkGriswold said:
Keep thinking that.
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I will because the guys coming on to property now will be the ones to get that benefit. I would have to wait several months just to even get a seniority number. A friend of mine was hired at Compass a few months ago and doesn't go to class till next month. That tells me their is a decent line of people that would be ahead of me.


In the end I'm not willing to make 25k ever again. Especially if I have a Training contract that restricts my movement.

QOL is likely better because of the movement. Everything is better when you get overall progress. It isn't the contract.
 
Just because the classes are later doesn't mean there's a lot of people ahead. Your friend is most likely one of the first to be hired after the AA announcement and will benefit hugely.
 
ClarkGriswold said:
Just because the classes are later doesn't mean there's a lot of people ahead. Your friend is most likely one of the first to be hired after the AA announcement and will benefit hugely.
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Well he can afford 25k his first year and 1.55 in per diem. I can not. That is the difference in the end.

Personally I tell new people to go to Compass since it is good for a first airline. I'm just done with having to live with family.
 
So within 12 hours of submitting my application I got a email with a phone number to set up an interview with a recruiter. I called and left a message on their voicemail and was called back later while my phone was off. I've been calling back numerous times a day for almost a week now and nobody ever answers. Is this normal?
 
cactusjuba said:
So within 12 hours of submitting my application I got a email with a phone number to set up an interview with a recruiter. I called and left a message on their voicemail and was called back later while my phone was off. I've been calling back numerous times a day for almost a week now and nobody ever answers. Is this normal?
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Did you leave a message?
 
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