LGA accident

[GolfChuck]

https://www.npr.org/2026/03/24/nx-s1-5759710/laguardia-airport-plane-crash?utm_campaign=npr&utm_medium=social&utm_term=nprnews&utm_source=facebook.com&fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAc3J0YwZhcHBfaWQPMjc1MjU0NjkyNTk4Mjc5AAEeuq2HQLcdUwIPmbbkmMg6kSECNlxDG3ce8WDNeKLcop-_9fWwh-qyv7Vkuug_aem_D_1V_chE7wtlCgl1sZ9Ilw

Apparently not

 

[Soku39]

briefly

Trains would probably directly harm my job, but yeah, we should have more trains.

There would still be plenty of jobs for us. Why I can't ride a train from Cleveand to Pittsburgh or Cleveland to Cinci is just mindblowing.

 

[Cherokee_Cruiser]

The thread title is still "LGA accident". What does the flight training at VNY have to do with a 121 carrier hitting a fire truck on a runway 2,137nm away?



Yet, YOU followed that train derailment and decided to continue to post about 91/135 in a thread about a 121 carrier hitting a fire truck.

Are you a 121 pilot?

 

[Cherokee_Cruiser]

I mean, the entire FAA was formed largely because of the TWA-United collision over the Grand Canyon but go off hermano.

Yes, in the 50s. And not just the first TWA and UAL collision (NYC). Still, there have been far more collisions of 121 with COR/GA/MIL/pies.

 

[Cherokee_Cruiser]

Such that the only contribution I have to this thread isn’t going to be “you’re FRAKKING kidding me” and/or “shut your FRAKKING mouth…”

The rest of us feel deeply for the on-duty death of our fellow union members from north of the border, and we express our profoundest regret and sadness for what happened at LaGuardia. We stand in solidarity with our Jazz Aviation colleagues and welcome the NTSB’s vigorous investigation to this tragic loss of life.

This is just lip service. Like thoughts and prayers after a mass shooting.


Most of of us know, and I’ve told my family that (before 2025) we are on the brink when it came to safety, and that the next major disaster in this country was with going to be a 121 involved in a midair collision or a runway collision. And both happened 14 months apart.

 

[Pilot Fighter]

This is a tragedy but the lesson is that we need to add an additional layer to the block of sliced Swiss cheese, two layers is not enough.

I think that a bunch a folks thought that looking both ways before entering an intersection was DNA-level vehicular operation. A bunch of folks were wrong.

This can be fixed without politics or inter-industry fighting .

 

[ASpilot2be]

This is a tragedy but the lesson is that we need to add an additional layer to the block of sliced Swiss cheese, two layers is not enough.

I think that a bunch a folks thought that looking both ways before entering an intersection was DNA-level vehicular operation. A bunch of folks were wrong.

This can be fixed without politics or inter-industry fighting .

I disagree with the politics part. Getting more controllers hired to prevent one person from running everything involves politics.

 

[Pilot Fighter]

I disagree with the politics part. Getting more controllers hired to prevent one person from running everything involves politics.

I think this could have happened with a dozen controllers on the clock. Responsibilities are divided with little concurrent control.

My cousin was the controller at LEX during Comair 5191. In the wake of that disaster, a number of folks wanted to make a (misplaced) case for increased staffing.

 

[ASpilot2be]

I think this could have happened with a dozen controllers on the clock. Responsibilities are divided with little concurrent control.

My cousin was the controller at LEX during Comair 5191. In the wake of that disaster, a number of folks wanted to make a (misplaced) case for increased staffing.

It could have, but I still think the chances of the initial clearance to cross are much lower if the controller is only working one area of responsibility.

 

[knot4u]

There would still be plenty of jobs for us. Why I can't ride a train from Cleveand to Pittsburgh or Cleveland to Cinci is just mindblowing.

CA is doing it! You'll be able to get from LA to SF in under three hours! The US is finally going to get a real bullet train! The rest of the states will surely follow this example of bureaucratic efficiency...

Wait a second, I just read the project is massively over budget and behind schedule. Not a single section of rail has been placed, no stations have been built and now it's going to run between Merced and Bakersfield (a very popular corridor for commuters). Billions of dollars have gone into this project over 2 1/2 decades and there's nothing to show for it, the Feds have decided to stop funding this entire debacle. There's no accounting where the all of the state tax or federal tax money went but they've spent $13.8 billion so far. CA has about 10% of the US population, now that fraud has become a big talking point the floodgates of info about what's going on in that state shouldn't be surprising. I love CA and I'd go back, but not until after they hit rock bottom and are recovering. That's what a democrat super majority leads to, all ideas and good vibes, zero pragmatism and actual work.

 

[Pilot Fighter]

It could have, but I still think the chances of the initial clearance to cross are much lower if the controller is only working one area of responsibility.

You might be right. 5191 was a case where everybody agreed that one controller with two responsibilities was safer. Then, the union failed to back their own agreement and back their controller, making a false claim of inadequate staffing.