What's a better idea or concept then? Everyone be enemies and backstab one another? I suppose that's entirely possible. But if the concept of unity is BS and doesn't work, then whats the purpose of the union? Why have one? To look good on paper? I'm asking as a legit question.
Seems to me that Unity isn't an American thing unless it's 'Merica! Strikes and unions are looked down upon, unlike other industrialized countries. We (supposedly) let market forces dictate pay in this country, and I don't know if it is a good or a bad system, but it's the one we have and seem to like. I think it probably does more good than harm. The real problem with trusting the free market is that it's only a theory, like communism, and it doesn't work perfectly.
There's no real sense of community in America. It seems like there was in my grandfather's time, but not anymore. We have a national identity anymore, but I don't identify myself as a pilot. My parents generation destroyed the union work model because they weren't all in it together and we've inherited that system. Will it change? Maybe. I've read discussions in the past attributing the lack of unionized employment in this country to the new, fast-paced, business models in which a company will evolve. Productivity is so high now and products so strange to the outside observer that things like Facebook have a market cap close to GM with a dwarfling of a staff. That'll be more common in the future. The union model may need to evolve or die... but not until I've got mine
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Yes, pilots do love it; or they wouldn't be taking the jobs as they have been. I suppose bottom hasn't yet been seen.
Eh, we may just have to accept that there is no bottom. I see EMS people regularly treated and paid like crap (real crap, not what we call crap) and everyone shows up for work with no shortage of people. EMS has turned into a stepping stone to good jobs like firefighters and police apparently, regionals are a stepping stone to majors and legacies, and if it hadn't been for a lost decade (plus a few years) I imagine I wouldn't be having this conversation. Things will get better out here, they already are. It seems like Delta is about to give us back some of our BK concessions when we sell them co-domicile. That'll be a much deserved relief from our draconian cuts... after Republic gets done with their contract it'll probably just be GoJet's and Endeavor on the bottom of the pile for pay.
Sure people disagree. But people here don't seem to respectfully disagree. That's the where the problem comes and everything delves to crap.
Eh, Some guys lie (looking at you @
Cherokee_Cruiser ) and self aggrandize, and there's a cost to that behavior. As far as @
Firebird2XC topic, I did the best I could to be respectful and funny but the reality is we are TOO far apart on some issues and it'll lead to what you saw. I rather thought mine was tame in comparison to some.
APC has the reputation it does because diverse opinions aren't respected. This place it trying to be a different vibe, but it can only be what the members make it. Remember, everyone has something to bring to the table. Dismissing or putting down CC simply because you don't like him personally or don't like his job ways, doesn't change the information presented, whether correct or incorrect information.
CC's one goal in life is to stir the pot and make as much trouble as possible. Why? I can only guess. He's destructive- self destructive and locally destructive. CC's a poison pill, and every employee group has one, but that doesn't mean you have to put up with him. He fabricates, he wraps his posts together with half truths, and I'm going to call him out on it.
When someone does that crap on a web board, it behooves the community to remind the other readers (who may be new) that CC is a liar. If I get personal while I do it, it's in fervent hope that he knows how much I detest his posts, his character, and wish him nothing but bad luck. It's not my imagination, this guy has a track record that affords him no-zero- credibility and I will continue to beat that drum whenever he gets on and does his shtick.
