Landing Incident @ SFO
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Boris Badenov
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...and round and round we go.
Boris Badenov
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Cass
You'll have that
Fire/structural damage is a little tougher to air out.
gne in prog
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Can always get one of those home/business fire/water damage restoration services.
http://www.servpro.com/?fullSite=true
Like it never even happened.
Cptnchia
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Had an Atlanta FD guy boasting about the leopard trucks being so fast that they put speed governors on them to slow them down to 80 mph so they wouldn't tip over when cornering. And yes, he was a CFR guy. I was over at the mid field station playing with fire extinguishers at the time.
Smoking or Non-Smoking sir?
HVYMETALDRVR
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Of course you have the FAs. My point being that the pax to cabin crew ratio is so skewed, not to mention having most of them still inside the cabin during an emergency evac doing their job, that there's few if any people outside the aircraft to manage the large number of pax, especially when the situation is chaotic and not a "vanilla" evac (whatever that is
The large CFR rigs top out at about 65-70, but aren't often driven that fast even during an emergency, as they have to severely slow for turns and have great rollover potential. It's been done more than once.
And problems with CFR aren't new either, and not just with the equipment such as in UA232. When UA 811 was returning at night to HNL after an explosive decompression out over the pacific, there was a near "high" speed collision between a responding City of Honolulu airport fire dept CFR rig, and a USAF CFR rig from Hickam AFB, as both were speeding to their staging points along the runway. USAF rig was hard to see as it was painted dark olive drab green (as all PACAF vehicles were), as opposed to the lime green that mainland vehicles used and the HNL FD vehicles were using. Following that incident, reflective striping for the OD green vehicles began making a large showing, with a black stripe by day, that reflects silver at night.
I guess I've been given wrong info, the fire trucks I've seen driving look like they maybe going slightly faster than that, but it is perspective so its hard to tell. The police cruisers on the other hand are going warp speed. In fact I specifically remember about 3 weeks ago seeing one whiz by and being impressed, like wayyy faster than highway police chase speeds on television... Though in this situation it appears the victim was hit by a fire truck, not a police cruiser.
Its possible, although being thrown from the airplane as is breaks up hitting the rocks, hitting the water and surviving would truly be a miracle. Just a WAG a 777 on short final is doing what? 150mph+ Water is like concrete at that speed, though again anything is possible.
Im sure they can get up to some speed with no governing, but those that can are indeed governed, for their own protection.
SteveCostello
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After seeing that airframe not completely flip end over end and upside down and not losing both wings in the process after doing that incredible 360 pirouette, I'll believe just about anything at this point.
109kts reported before he "hit the rounddown"
They end up like this. Note that Eglin hasn't had light-grey Eagles in a long time.....
Nice, didn't know cruisers had bomb shackles on the roof, but looks like the Ordies are doing a good job attaching it
Cptnchia
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Problem was, they weren't going 150 mph. More like 120 mph or 103 kts. If they were doing 150 they maybe would have pulled off the go around.
Nice, didn't know cruisers had bomb shackles on the roof, but looks like the Ordies are doing a good job attaching it
The driver had "dropped his cellphone, and accidently hit the accelerator while trying to retrieve it." Thats the official story.
Yeah....went back to my Navy roots on that one"Round"down.
SlumTodd_Millionaire
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This is what I'm wondering, as well. When Eastern 401 hit the everglades, many survivors (and deceased) were thrown from the aircraft on impact, and many of them actually had their clothes flung off from the force of the impact. A lot of survivors (and dead bodies) were found naked. The forces involved in such a rapid deceleration are incredible.
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