Keep it Professional....
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ppragman
FLIPY FLAPS!
Two points for paraphrasing Anchorman. You just went up in my estimation amigo.
RRPower
Well-Known Member
First off, the fact checker runs deaper than just "airlinepilot central" payrates. We aren't just talking about base hourly pay here which for CA is slightly higher so I am not as wrong as you think I am.
Second, this is not a my regional is better than yours...I am merely showing some pride in my airline which seems to be a thing of the past to everyone...including those working at majors. I was merely pointing out to my colleague that not everyone at AWAC has a hard-on for Republic. In fact, if they base it on whther or not they are flying 170/175's instead of QOL, they are idiots.
Firebird2XC
Well-Known Member
You know man, I'm seeing some hostility here. I gotta ask.. Do you think your message will be well-received with the name calling in that statement?
The values suggested are subjective, in my opinion.. who's to say that flying a certain airplane *has* to have less intrinsic value than QOL in terms of how much somebody likes their job?
It's all relative, man. I don't mean to kick you or anything, but take it from somebody that knows- this sort of negativity isn't constructive. I mean hey, look at your signature line, ya know what I mean?
OldTownPilot
Well-Known Member
.....And Comair in LEX.
It was DL 5191, which when comair files their flight plan they drop the first 5, thus the flight to ATC was "Comair 191"
Now that we have three 191's crash we are good to use it again....
Kingairer
'Tiger Team' Member
Believe whatever you like, and whatever helps you keep up the anger against another airline.
Jake Wheeler
New Member
Where do you think the majors will obtain their feed when the contract is up? It's not cheap or easy to cough up even 10 170's and crews much less several dozen. It's either renew the contract or lose market share. Some of the contract airlines will cancel, but others can't afford to do it without cutting their own throat.
Jake Wheeler
New Member
Just goes to show the quality of pilots some other airlines have hired.
BobDDuck
Island Bus Driver
Fixed it for you. I've seen my share of idiots at pretty much every airline.
EDIT: And I've seen some idiots at majors as well.
ZWflyer
Well-Known Member
Not only that, but the major partners now have the chance to "code share" with Republic. I don't understand why everyone keeps saying that they will get dumped when their contracts are up. Legacies are now in a position to farm out as much of the flying as they want and even share some of the cost with Republic/Frontier.
ZWflyer
Well-Known Member
I'll second that. I can't recall an airline that I haven't seen at least one idiot at.
RRPower
Well-Known Member
For the record, I couldn't care less if people get their feelings hurt because I said they were idiots. What would you call someone who is willing to go down in QOL just to fly a bigger airplane? And by QOL I mean contractual language. To say you can fly a CRJ-200 for equal or more than you can a 170/175? What would you call someone like that?
MusketeerMan
Well-Known Member
Keeping mouth shut. I won't call you names because it's more peaceful around here without it.
Aye aye aye.
kellwolf
Piece of Trash
If it's a cost sharing thing, I could see that. Right now, those 170s are operating (AFAIK at least) under a FFD contract. That's a totally different beast. The main argument is why subsidize your competition with a lucrative FFD contract? United, for example, is essentially funneling money into Frontier's ad campaign in DEN every time they write a check to Republic. Now, if they wanted to change that into a TRUE code share agreement, that would be interesting. It would also mean that a lot of Republics 170/175 flying would be "at risk" rather than FFD.
As for the lift, the 170/175 isn't the only 76 seat airplane out there. Pinnacle's got options for more -900s, and I doubt we're the only ones. Heck, make a -700 and you only lose 6 seats. It's also possible that if Republic loses the contract, they could even sub-lease those airplanes to whoever wins the contract. There's 101 ways to get around it if it comes down to it.
There's also a limit to how much they can "farm out," thank the deities. The last thing we need is a BIGGER scope reduction.
SpiraMirabilis
Possible Subversive
There is limited ways for UAL to make money if they codeshare with Republic and many many ways for Republic to lose many if they codeshare. Republic would have to operate those routes, pay for that gas, everything.
Codeshares are only attractive, really, if you don't operate into a particular city / location but an existing scheduled airline does. This way you can still sell tickets that end up or start there but don't have to add service.
I don't think you'll see any new codeshares from Republic, excepting perhaps some on the Frontier brand if they're going to destinations UA doesn't already serve. And even then maybe not.
Codeshares are only attractive, really, if you don't operate into a particular city / location but an existing scheduled airline does. This way you can still sell tickets that end up or start there but don't have to add service.
I don't think you'll see any new codeshares from Republic, excepting perhaps some on the Frontier brand if they're going to destinations UA doesn't already serve. And even then maybe not.
LineCheck
Well-Known Member
In the spirit of this thread, here is an example of how not to behave!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ewq9NncD_QM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ewq9NncD_QM
SFCC/UND
Well-Known Member
Flyingtower
New Member
falconvalley
Absentee Dad of the OOTSK, Runner, Cat Frustrator
You see, it's all fun and games to me until the colorful name calling begins. I draw the line there. Say what you want about my airline. I've heard it all before. It's so cliche at this point and like others said, just down right funny at times.
When you start calling me or any of my coworkers names by generalizing, however, you're entering a whole new arena. Unfortunately, a lot of credibility is lost when one starts defending their playful antics by claiming to know better because they are wise and not subject to "SJS" and desperation to fly a "big jet" (conveniently "backed-up" by the history of their company). Fact is, you can't define an entire group of people based on these things and then separate them from everyone else in aviation, because people like that are everywhere. No more at my airline then yours or anybody else's.
So, play away, my friends. Tell each other that the only person dumb enough to fly for their company is your starry-eyed 9yo sister. But please dispense with the passive-aggressive comments. It's kinda rude and really, we're all here to share anyway and I don't wanna share if it's gonna be lame insults!
When you start calling me or any of my coworkers names by generalizing, however, you're entering a whole new arena. Unfortunately, a lot of credibility is lost when one starts defending their playful antics by claiming to know better because they are wise and not subject to "SJS" and desperation to fly a "big jet" (conveniently "backed-up" by the history of their company). Fact is, you can't define an entire group of people based on these things and then separate them from everyone else in aviation, because people like that are everywhere. No more at my airline then yours or anybody else's.
So, play away, my friends. Tell each other that the only person dumb enough to fly for their company is your starry-eyed 9yo sister. But please dispense with the passive-aggressive comments. It's kinda rude and really, we're all here to share anyway and I don't wanna share if it's gonna be lame insults!