Job market

dxbear said:
Lets see, a close approx of the actual numbers go's somthing like this............

Air Wis needs 1,
Hawaiian wants 1
COA wants 10,
Allegiant wants 1,
Miami air wants 1,
Compass wants 2,
Mesaba wants 1
Express Jet is looking for to 2 to 4 _________________ thats a total of 19


Last 6-12 months:
Republic hired 4 to 6
ASA hired 4
Sky west hired 2
Colgan, hired 4 to 6
Pinnicle hired 4 to 6
Southwest hired ?
NorthAmerican hired 1
Jet Blue Hired 3 to 5
Delta Hired ?

Its a great career if you can get on board.. I have said it before, people here like to sugar coat the facts.. and think I am too negative but in the dispatch world, all we have are the cold hard facts.. anything else is wishful thinking..
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Southwest was looking for 5
Delta just hired 20 (yes 20) but all internal apps. They did have some Nav Database and overfly permit positions open the last week, which were asking for dispatch or pilot license. I think a few of those guys moved over to the dispatch job.

RUMOR = FedEx may be looking external soon, they've been adding a bunch due to the supplemental to flag change, and I saw Omni and republic looking in the last few weeks.

So, tht is not a lot considering how many freshly minted certificates are out there, but keep in mind a few of those coming out of school are going overseas. If you're mobile and able to start for peanuts, it's a good career. I love the job (even if I sometimes have issues with the company).

Keep in mind it's a small group of people for an industry, and that makes for 1 to 2 degrees of separation and a history will follow you.
 
In regards to luck: luck is where preparation meets opportunity. Preparation is something you have control over. Opportunity is something you can can create. There is very little "luck" in achieving a goal/success.
 
Im hoping/ praying that the DFW market will be friendly for me. Seems like a handful of charters are hiring in the area. In addition, I'm not very far from my bachelors, and MAYBE that will be the differance maker. Im also an out of the box thinker, seen other fields (trucking, bus lines, railroad industry) that all hire people with CERTs. So I'm realistic, but hopeful as well.
 
manniax said:
Why don't you go work on your A&P then? I did avionics in the military and found that maintenance was not my cup of tea, personally...dispatch has been good to me and I'm very happy to be in the operations area rather than the maintenance one. Nothing at all against mechanics, of course, some people love that field, it's just not for me. Perhaps you could go on the maintenance boards here and learn more about being an A&P rather than always complaining on this board about how hard it is to get a dispatch job.
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Dude get your head out of the sand, I am just painting the picture as it reallys exists.. not complaining just to to be negative.. many of these kids are asking about "becoming " a dispatcher.. My point was directed to the fact that there are hundreds of A&P recs out there with a hugh need for more..

Unless of course you have an other motive for biting my head off, like maybe you have a dispatch school / interest ? then I can see where your worried about popping the myth of all those 6 figure jobs that new student hear about..

The truth will set you free... and I would like to dispatch again, my sources are directly from many friends and managers around the industry, I know what I speak off... as to being an A&P, I have one, but I'm a bit too old to go back to my tool box...Don't justtake my word for it, look at the jobs posted.. go to indeed.com it's a good site for any job anywhere.. again good luck in your choices..
 
dxbear said:
Dude get your head out of the sand, I am just painting the picture as it reallys exists.. not complaining just to to be negative.. many of these kids are asking about "becoming " a dispatcher.. My point was directed to the fact that there are hundreds of A&P recs out there with a hugh need for more..

Unless of course you have an other motive for biting my head off, like maybe you have a dispatch school / interest ? then I can see where your worried about popping the myth of all those 6 figure jobs that new student hear about..

The truth will set you free... and I would like to dispatch again, my sources are directly from many friends and managers around the industry, I know what I speak off... as to being an A&P, I have one, but I'm a bit too old to go back to my tool box...Don't just take my word for it, look at the jobs posted.. go to indeed.com it's a good site for any job anywhere.. again good luck in your choices..
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I don't mean to bite your head off. I have no school affiliation and I'm not looking for work right now, but I do work at a major airline and we've hired groups of dispatchers multiple times over the last five years. Had I listened to someone like you before I got my license or when I was at a regional, I might have been discouraged from applying for airline jobs because of the "astronomical odds" against getting hired in this field. This field is definitely challenging at times, but in my fifteen plus years of dispatching, I've only ever been out of work for two months, after a carrier I was working for went out of business. I guess I have a "Hang in there, it's worth it" attitude that I like to share with people starting out in this field, as opposed to your "It's too hard to succeed, so don't bother trying" advice.
 
F9DXER said:
This has been since the move, I think we have gone through 15 dispatchers
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Wow, that is a lot. Reminds me of when Mesa moved from FMN to PHX. Of course, people could have been sending out resumes before the move, and not found anything until after the move. I actually worked for the current Republic management team at my first airline, I have nothing against the CEO but some of the people that have followed him around through the years, I'm not so fond of.
 
Just an observation that I have experience as a pilot, but cant assist in making decisions of a flight from an office.

Edit* To clarify, I cant make myself pay for a course to teach me how to do weight and balance and read weather carts for another large sum of money after already being trained on the same material several times... I understand the requirement, but it is aggravating to someone looking to get out of the cockpit but cant take my job experience anywhere.
 
FlyingPoke said:
Just an observation that I have experience as a pilot, but cant assist in making decisions of a flight from an office.

Edit* To clarify, I cant make myself pay for a course to teach me how to do weight and balance and read weather carts for another large sum of money after already being trained on the same material several times... I understand the requirement, but it is aggravating to someone looking to get out of the cockpit but cant take my job experience anywhere.
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I see your profile, looks like you're doing some Mapping and maybe some charter pilot stuff, but I don't know if that's current. Do you have experience in Part 121 Operations as a pilot? The reason I ask is because Part 65 allows you, with the appropriate previous experience, to *theoretically* go straight to the FAA and take an Aircraft Dispatcher Practical Examination. So, do you have experience in Part 121 operations as a pilot?
 
No 121 experience, from what I gather I might be able to do a shorter (4 week?) program due to my pilot experience. Like I said, just seems silly to pay someone more money for what will essentially be a signature for a checkride and some prep that could probably be done in a few days.

The 'arrogant pilot' in me says being able to instruct people how to fly and all the technical stuff that goes with it should suffice... but like I said, I understand the requirement, just me crying my own little river. I'll find something one of these days. Good luck to you guys also, and thanks for the information.
 
FlyingPoke said:
No 121 experience, from what I gather I might be able to do a shorter (4 week?) program due to my pilot experience. Like I said, just seems silly to pay someone more money for what will essentially be a signature for a checkride and some prep that could probably be done in a few days.

Just seems to me being able to instruct people how to fly and all the technical stuff that goes with it would suffice... but like I said, I understand the requirement, just me crying my own little river. I'll find something one of these days. Good luck to you guys also, and thanks for the information.
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You're welcome. This may seem a little harsh: I actually really think you don't know what you're talking about. I had this whole long paragraph drawn up but it's better just to leave it at that.

I do agree with you on one point though, at your experience level if you attended a Part 65 Dispatch school and didn't learn a thing, that school would be an absurd waste of your time and money. There are really good ones out there and really bad ones.
 
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