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And one bad ass piece of machinery.
Jetstar 2 ?
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Actually, I didn't get into photography until I got into the Navy in 2003. First camera was the D70. I did play with darkrooms and film in my elementary school years and really enjoyed it. Don't think that I could find the time to do all of that processing now.
FloridaLarry
Well-Known Member
Wikipedia delivers again...
"The McDonnell 119/220 was a business jet produced by the McDonnell Aircraft Corporation in the mid-1950s. It had a configuration that was unique by bizjet standards, with four jet engines mounted in individual pods underneath a low wing; it could accommodate 10 passengers in a luxury executive configuration but could carry as many as 26.
The Model 119 was originally designed to compete for the U.S. Air Force's UTX/UCX (Utility-Trainer Experimental/Utility-Cargo Experimental) contract, but when it lost to the Lockheed L-1329 JetStar (called the C-140 in Air Force service) in the fall of 1959, the McDonnell corporation began efforts to market the type commercially. The company's first tactic was to draw up a deal with Pan American World Airways that would have involved the airline leasing 170 jets for five years, but when no other airline orders materialized, McDonnell decided that opening up a new assembly line for 170 leased aircraft was unfeasible. Instead, they renamed the plane the Model 220 (to commemorate the start of the company's second 20 years of existence) and commenced wide-ranging marketing efforts to sell the aircraft as a business jet, including contacting the 750 largest corporations in the United States. There were no takers, even for the single prototype that had already been constructed.The McDonnell Corporation used the airplane as a VIP transport for a few years before donating it to the Flight Safety Foundation's research facility in Phoenix, Arizona. The commercial failure of the Model 220 is credited with being one of the reasons McDonnell never again attempted a commercial project before merging with the Douglas Aircraft Company in 1967.
The sole prototype McDonnell 220 remains in outdoor storage at El Paso International Airport in El Paso, TX. In October 2009, it was listed for sale by its current owner in Phoenix, AZ.[2] "
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McDonnell_220#cite_note-2
"The McDonnell 119/220 was a business jet produced by the McDonnell Aircraft Corporation in the mid-1950s. It had a configuration that was unique by bizjet standards, with four jet engines mounted in individual pods underneath a low wing; it could accommodate 10 passengers in a luxury executive configuration but could carry as many as 26.
The Model 119 was originally designed to compete for the U.S. Air Force's UTX/UCX (Utility-Trainer Experimental/Utility-Cargo Experimental) contract, but when it lost to the Lockheed L-1329 JetStar (called the C-140 in Air Force service) in the fall of 1959, the McDonnell corporation began efforts to market the type commercially. The company's first tactic was to draw up a deal with Pan American World Airways that would have involved the airline leasing 170 jets for five years, but when no other airline orders materialized, McDonnell decided that opening up a new assembly line for 170 leased aircraft was unfeasible. Instead, they renamed the plane the Model 220 (to commemorate the start of the company's second 20 years of existence) and commenced wide-ranging marketing efforts to sell the aircraft as a business jet, including contacting the 750 largest corporations in the United States. There were no takers, even for the single prototype that had already been constructed.The McDonnell Corporation used the airplane as a VIP transport for a few years before donating it to the Flight Safety Foundation's research facility in Phoenix, Arizona. The commercial failure of the Model 220 is credited with being one of the reasons McDonnell never again attempted a commercial project before merging with the Douglas Aircraft Company in 1967.
The sole prototype McDonnell 220 remains in outdoor storage at El Paso International Airport in El Paso, TX. In October 2009, it was listed for sale by its current owner in Phoenix, AZ.[2] "
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McDonnell_220#cite_note-2
Cal Goat
Prestige Worldwide™
My grandfather was a test pilot for Garrett when they were doing the turbofan testing. After he died, I inherited a bunch of his old airplane stuff that my grandmother didn't want in the house and now I have a large framed print of a Jetstar flying over the Golden Gate Bridge in my living room.
Beautiful airplane in the sense that it is an interesting artifact of its era. I think Lockheed did an excellent job with the technology they had at the time. I did have the pleasure of getting a thorough tour of one about 12 years when I was still in flight school. The pilot had nothing but high praise for that machine... despite the fact that it was broken at the time.
There's a pristine example sitting in HWD. Hasn't flown in at least 2 years I reckon. Hurts my heart to see her sitting outdoors, slowly decaying.
Beautiful airplane in the sense that it is an interesting artifact of its era. I think Lockheed did an excellent job with the technology they had at the time. I did have the pleasure of getting a thorough tour of one about 12 years when I was still in flight school. The pilot had nothing but high praise for that machine... despite the fact that it was broken at the time.
There's a pristine example sitting in HWD. Hasn't flown in at least 2 years I reckon. Hurts my heart to see her sitting outdoors, slowly decaying.
TwoTwoLeft
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To answer knot4u 's question...
HEY! That's my Pops flying right there!
I flew from that jumpseat a lot when I was a kid.
HEY! That's my Pops flying right there!
I flew from that jumpseat a lot when I was a kid.
Was a nice bird to see, along with their Lear 55. Discounts hangar was around the corner and through the A8 taxiway gate from where my company's hangar was.
N65JT was at SDL too. Don't know if it still calls it home anymore. With 6 fuel cells and associated management along with the 4 engines, the copilot was also the FE from what I've heard. Looking ahead of the throttles appears to confirm that?[/quote]
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Who likes them and why?
Hott.
knot4u
Repeat Offender
Probably met your father. I worked line service at KBUR in the early '90s and fueled that airplane more than once. Worked on one recently and the CA was very proud of it. 4Xengines (might equal) 4Xproblems. I suppose ramp presence carries its own gravitas.
Boris Badenov
Fortis Leader
There's a well known rule that anything with tip tanks is automatically awesome. Engine-sized fuel PODS? Off the awesome scale.
There's one rotting away outside the very down-at-the-heels museum at KCPS. A relic of a more elegant (or conceivably just more wanton and insane) age.
There's one rotting away outside the very down-at-the-heels museum at KCPS. A relic of a more elegant (or conceivably just more wanton and insane) age.
Boris Badenov
Fortis Leader
Those two are ALL THAT IS MAN. With maybe a slight edge to the Hustler simply due to the total insanity of its mission profile. No WAY most of those guys made it even halfway back to Freedom and The American Way.
Cal Goat
Prestige Worldwide™
desertdog71
Girthy Member
You have to wonder. Why does a B-58 have a tail gun?
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They're now in Bennett Dorrance's facility. Security done by USSS. CP is Mark Tillman (9/11 A1 AC). Place is locked down as expected.
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That's her. Man has SDL changed a lot... I never had the opportunity to see her from the inside. She's beautiful. What was w the HF antenna w the corporate interior?
trafficinsight
Well-Known Member
Because if it was a nose gun they'd shoot themselves down?
Sent from 1865 by telegraph....
Most of them knew it was a "one way trip"
Ask any former SAC KC-135 pilot about "standpipe fuel". Load the bombers with every last drop of fuel to the "standpipes" for the Big Mission and hopefully make your closest diversion field. Which many would say "Yeah, we'd probably be deadsticking it into the ocean" for the most part.