Toobdrvr
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Of course people change. But that doesn’t erase every thing they did before, or all the consequences. JMHO.
If he had succeeded in his plan, I doubt we would even be talking about this.
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Of course people change. But that doesn’t erase every thing they did before, or all the consequences. JMHO.
If he had succeeded in his plan, I doubt we would even be talking about this.
Toobdrvr
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As a semi-related aside, years ago I flew with a really nice Captain shortly after getting hired at my first passenger airline. Quiet, Older, Family guy, went to church, former Marine, etc. All- around good dude.
A month after we flew, he got picked up for a murder he committed 30ish years earlier. I think he ended up doing 10 years or so.
Was he the same stupid 19 year old Marine who committed that crime? Not at all. Did that matter? Nope.
A month after we flew, he got picked up for a murder he committed 30ish years earlier. I think he ended up doing 10 years or so.
Was he the same stupid 19 year old Marine who committed that crime? Not at all. Did that matter? Nope.
SlumTodd_Millionaire
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In other words, you want to infinitely punish for finite crimes. You’d make a good fictional deity.
It should matter, yes.
ppragman
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I honestly think it should, but that’s just me.
Waiting with bated breath for the CC-approved way of referring to a person without gender specifics. The “suspect/assailant/personin question”. LOL
ppragman
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CC only uses Turkish to address other people, including
he/she/it = o
they = onlar
because, you know, Turkey is that well known genderless country
SlumTodd_Millionaire
Most Hated Member
It’s really simple: “he.”
Merhaba!
I generally don't when referring to someone in a professional environment when I don't want them making assumptions.
We roll how we roll.
"Unconscious bias" gets drilled into the brains after a while at certain levels. It is what it is.
Cherokee_Cruiser
Bronteroc
Show me a picture of any binary individual, and I’ll tell you whether I would say he or she.
This really isn’t that hard.
This really isn’t that hard.
Electoral college.
How do you do with non-binary though?
NovemberEcho
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So because Turkish is genderless, my wife often mixes up he/she and/or uses them interchangeably. So she’ll be telling a story and you’re trying to follow along thinking there’s 5 people involved but it turns out it was just one or two people and sometimes she would use “she” and sometimes “he” for the same person.
“My husband flies planes. Sometimes she rents them. He’ll take me flying and then she takes me dinner.”
ppragman
FLIPY FLAPS!
Turkish is actually a really cool language, I’d love to have the exposure to it to be able to learn.
SlumTodd_Millionaire
Most Hated Member
“They.” It’s more than one, therefore they/them is actually appropriate. If referring to a specific member of the EC and you don’t know their gender, “he.”
No such thing. It’s called a delusion.
Is that a science-based or logic-based declaration?
(Honestly curious where you're coming from. I've already said I'm pretty ignorant on this stuff.)
Maximilian_Jenius
Super User
It was a buzz wordy defense term. And it worked. But the dude killed four people and injured nine and he DGAF. That should tell you everything. He was spoiled, enabled and entitled and rules didn't apply for him.
NovemberEcho
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@SlumTodd_Millionaire and @ppragman would y’all hire Brock Turner, assuming all other qualifications were met?
en.m.wikipedia.org
People v. Turner - Wikipedia
ppragman
FLIPY FLAPS!
Guy sounds like he was a piece of • - but that was 6 or so years ago, he served his time (all a couple months of it), and presumably is “rehabilitated.” If he interviews well I don’t see why not. Note that he got out in good behavior. Maybe this one event taught him that he can’t behave that way - perhaps “the system worked.”@SlumTodd_Millionaire and @ppragman would y’all hire Brock Turner, assuming all other qualifications were met?
People v. Turner - Wikipedia
It’s not our job to punish people indefinitely - I care how he is now, not how he was 6 years ago. If he appears to be an utter dbag or can’t explain his personal growth through this situation, well, sorry. But anyone would have to explain long periods of unemployment, or if their name comes up in a bad light at a cursory Google search.
Like, another (even more hyperbolic example) is Kyle Rittenhouse. That kid murdered a couple of people and I believe the verdict was a miscarriage of Justice. But he was found innocent and if he’s qualified and interviews well / seems like a person I want to work with, well, welcome aboard.
But he’s going to have to interview well, and part of that is explaining why he has a fairly damning Wikipedia article…
Regardless, I care about how people are now - not how they used to be.