"It's not always about the pay, I have a lot of friends who are airline pilots, and they love it."

Trip7 said:
I am a 121 pilot and after 5 years in the right seat and probably at least another year before upgrade, still love the job. I know it's not the cool thing to say on forums, but in reality, I and most Captains I fly with are very satisfied, and the future looks bright.
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How dare you! Everybody at the regionals should be angry, bitter and wishing they were sitting in front of a computer all day!
 
I had beers with a wise old captain not too long ago and he put it rather succinctly: We love to complain about this job/industry. But pretty much everyone in any career complains about their job. This just happens to be the job that we're most willing to complain about.

All the career pilots I know complain. Even the ones with 6-figure corporate jobs. But they're all still pilots.
 
MikeD said:
The Colgan failure to pay it's employees on time was documented in a number of threads here on the forum; and I used to work for the cargo company mentioned [UPS and Airborne Express contracted] and owned by Skywest prior to being commissioned in the USAF in the early-mid 1990s, where I flew N160SW out of KPHX, one of the original fleet of Skywest's PA-31-350s they started operating in 1973.....this particular one being a 1974 model. When Skywest retired their remaining Metro's in 1996 and replaced them with EMB-120s, a few of those began showing up at PHX to augment the PA-31s and C-208s.
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I love reading all the info you have just I am always surprised cause you seem to have knowledge about almost everything in the aviation industry ha.
 
Murdoughnut said:
Low pay isn't a big deal ... until you have kids. Then no amount of soaring through the air is going to make you feel better about the fact that you can't afford to buy them Christmas gifts.
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Simple solution to that problem: don't have kids until after you're past the low pay portion of your career.

Not justifying low regional pay, which there is plenty of reason to complain about, but having kids before you can afford them is not a valid reason to complain about the pay at any job.
 
As one who made a baby once without realizing it, it's not exactly predictable unless you plan on leading a completely chaste lifestyle.

And yes, we were using birth control.

Life happens.

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Properly used condoms pretty much eliminate the accidental pregnancy. Emphasis on "properly used." Sure, nothing is absolutely 100% foolproof, and I sympathize with a couple who used protection and ended up being the fraction of a percent example of birth control failure, but we all know that most regional FOs with kids got them either because they were trying, or because they were irresponsible with birth control.
 
Maybe I'm old and jaded but I don't judge their decisions, it could have happened for a variety of reasons. Personally, I didn't want to crank a baby but or even thin k about it early in my career.... BUT if you have sex, there is always a chance your skeet skeet skeet is going to be more than theatrics and may fulfill its intended purpose.

How many episodes of Maury Povich have we seen when he says "you ARE the father" and the man jumps around like its somehow impossible because everyone was "protected"?

But birth control is like Swiss cheese, you can have all of the layers you want, but sometimes those holes line up and you've got a situation. There are a lot of 1% of 1% "unexpected surprises" in baby carriages at Target on a sunny afternoon.

Anyhoo, I think we should focus on making the profession better and more requisite to the effort we took to get to where we are as professional aviators.


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We had a "situation" last summer where my wife and I got drunk in Vegas and made a baby, which was non-viable, after years of religious birth control use, it just gave me a different perspective on judging and the 1% chance of 1% thing.

The older I get, the less I try to judge someone's situation because you simply don't know.

Like one of my captains this month has two ex wives. You might want to laugh and say, "Ha! Typical airline pilot!" Yeah, but one didn't make the military to civilian transition well and the other one died of cancer.

You just don't know everyone's situation.


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ATN_Pilot said:
Simple solution to that problem: don't have kids until after you're past the low pay portion of your career.

Not justifying low regional pay, which there is plenty of reason to complain about, but having kids before you can afford them is not a valid reason to complain about the pay at any job.
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Oh I agree. But aviation seems to be one of the few careers out there where you don't carry your seniority from one company to another very well (at least in the 121 world)
 
Surprise!

"Religious Birth Control" is equivalent with the word "Pilot Shortage".
God wants children and low pilot pay, so that the pool won't dry up and flying can stay cheap.

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Cessna414JJB said:
Surprise!

"Religious Birth Control" is equivalent with the word "Pilot Shortage".
God wants children and low pilot pay, so that the pool won't dry up and flying can stay cheap.

:sarcasm:
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Ha!

Before I get an angry email, I mean "diligent" use of BC.
 
Reminds me of when I was rolling through the slums in Manila looking at the thousands of people living in shantytowns. I was sitting in the back of a cab... I asked the cab driver "what can the government of PH do to fix these problems and get rid of this misery?" He paused for a second... "Pass out truckloads of free condoms."
 
Didn't the Pope say "No way, bro!" to contraception? I thought it was a highly Catholic population there.

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Derg said:
Ha!

Before I get an angry email, I mean "diligent" use of BC.
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Much better!
Certainly don't want to be the cause for a Uber- Christian to light their undies on fire, do you?

The highest form of diligence is to... refer to global warming as a valid excuse not to doodle the noodle over the poodle. More kids, more cars, and airline copilots don't drive Prius's - hence: No Show!

Everyone wants to save the environment - so rather go and have more drinks.

Been damn lucky with the knocking part. Almost completely on the loose, replaced early/ often and kept relocating.
Differing names helped. If they know you as "Derg from Memphis" - "Derg from Memphis" is who princess goes looking for, on Craigslist. True story!
 
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