It's Departure Leg, not Upwind Leg

Douglas

Old School KSUX
For those who are interested. When you are departing out from the runway, you are on Departure Leg. You are not on the Upwind Leg.

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The Upwind leg in a a reflection of the Downwind Leg.

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For those who are interested. When you are departing out from the runway, you are on Departure Leg. You are not on the Upwind Leg.

Yes, but very few people know that. Even ATC seems to call the departure leg the upwind. The old Flight Training Handbook actually had it labeled as the upwind, so maybe there was a change in terminology a decade ago. The old language seems as firmly entrenched as "Biennial Flight Review."
 
People can't use proper radio practices at towered airports, you expect proper departure phraseology?

You crazy man!

:D
 
Let me know if you agree with this statement.

If I'm staying in the pattern It's my upwind leg. If i'm leaving the area, it's my departure leg.
 
If I'm staying in the pattern It's my upwind leg. If i'm leaving the area, it's my departure leg.

No, the departure leg is aligned with the runway; the upwind is off to one side, opposite of where the downwind leg is, but closer. It's the leg you would fly if you did a go-around.
 
If it makes you feel any better I had tower yell at me for doing runway heading when told to do so. I drifted half a mile south of the extended center-line and they had to inform me that I was doing it wrong :dunno:

Gotta love people not knowing what they are saying.:whatever:
 
If it makes you feel any better I had tower yell at me for doing runway heading when told to do so. I drifted half a mile south of the extended center-line and they had to inform me that I was doing it wrong :dunno:

Gotta love people not knowing what they are saying.:whatever:
You're right. I had a similar experience while doing a check ride for an excellent pilot. After entering holding, ATC told him he had entered it incorrectly. ATC was wrong, be we weren't about to debate it on the radio.
 
Tomorrow morning, while working with EuroControl, I'll remind them that it's "Flight Three Zero Zero" rather than "Flight Level Three Hundred"! :)
 
Yeah, I know it's called the "departure leg." However, I'll continue to say "upwind." :)

Why? Everyone knows what "upwind" is. Not everyone knows what a "departure leg" is.
 
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