it pays to check for grammar & spelling...

Kristie

Mama Bear....
Staff member
stumbled upon this lovely post here by Flavorflav and thought i'd use it as an example on how to check your post one final time before hitting the submit button

thought i'd take it out of the thread it was in so as not to disturb said thread!
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the funny thing is that usair KNOWS they're bad across the bored . wheni lived back in seattle, one of my friends dads worked for US air behind the counter, and he told me that at PHL, service is especially bad. he said that there's more problems coming from there than anywhere else. so i think that the execs need to take a hint from the stats and maybe, just MAYBE, from their employees and look for a way to make things better. also what are they thinking when it comes to working with out compensation? do they honesly think that their employs are just gonna kick it in to work on there own with no motiv when they know that they are either getting ncut or their pay reduced while te execs on their familys are on a cruise somewhere nice?? I should think not. so basically, i just think it'd be funny if no came in at all!

[/ QUOTE ]sorry - gotta make your post an example 'round here...

two pet peeves that most people have with the forums:
1) not checking your spelling
2) improper grammar

case in point:
bored=board
wheni = when i
one of my friends dads = my friends dad
dads = your friend has more than one dad?
with out = without
employs = employees?
to = shouldn't that be "and"
no motiv = a motive.. and motiv = motive via spellcheck
ncut = cut (what do you mean by they are either getting cut?) isn't that the same thing as pay reduced? or do you mean cut as in lost job?
te = the
on = and??
no came = no ONE came?

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oh, i also have no idea whether the service is worst at phl, so please don't site me for that!! lol

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worst = worse?!

sorry flavorflav.. but ya know, it pays to check your spelling and grammar before you hit the submit button!! other wise, you get smarta$$ chicks like me pointing out the flaws! lesson learned for ya eh?!
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not trying to be mean or anything, just making a general point for all!
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let's not forget my personal favorites...

there = a place....as in over there.
their = posessive. The staff had their Holiday party
Wednesday
they're = they are
 
And both of you that are making corrections forgot to start a sentence with a capital letter.
 
And let me add my biggest pet peeves.

You're -- the contraction for "you are."
Your -- possessive for you.

Example: You're going to drive your car there?

Effect -- result of an action
Affect -- change the course of action

Example: I'm not sure what effect my actions will have, but they certainly will affect the outcome.

Anyone else want to pile on?

Sorry, but I see this happen all the time and not just here. I've had people send me business correspondence with these mistakes in them, and it's like, uh, you've got that fancy title, and you still make these mistakes?
 
If you allow kids to respond on this site, you half to accept their grammatical errors. If you want to inspire young aviators, don't try and step on their toes'. There will be plenty of others to help correct them during their ascent.
 
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If you allow kids to respond on this site, you half to accept their grammatical errors. If you want to inspire young aviators, don't try and step on their toes'. There will be plenty of others to help correct them during their ascent.

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We <have> to accept their errors? Any 'kid' who is old enough to be on here should have (hopefully) passed 7th or 8th grade English! No wonder the gov't wants to fund a post H.S. program to improve basic English skills students couldn't seem to learn in 12 years of public education...Go Kristie!
 
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If you allow kids to respond on this site, you half to accept their grammatical errors. If you want to inspire young aviators, don't try and step on their toes'. There will be plenty of others to help correct them during their ascent.

[/ QUOTE ]no we don't! how is that helping anyone by accepting what we know is wrong? we don't have to accept anyone's grammar errors at all - our job, as adults, is to point out the fix for the errors, so that they know for future reference, and inspire them to do a better job of doing their own quality control (check and recheck). make them accountable AND responsible (that's a big problem in today's world)... plus, it gets them into the habit of wanting to do better, wanting to do more and thereby making them a more successful individual which is good for them and good for whatever career their going into. There's no better criticism than constructive criticism in my book and it should never be taken personally. constructive criticism only makes you do better...

I really don't feel like i'm stepping on anyone's toes by pointing this stuff out. I feel like they're stepping on my toes by making me cringe when i read a paragraph with so - many - errors. if it were just one or two, then i probably wouldn't make it that big of a deal.
 
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No wonder the gov't wants to fund a post H.S. program to improve basic English skills students couldn't seem to learn in 12 years of public education...

[/ QUOTE ]WHAT? I haven't heard that one before... when did all that talk start up? something terribly wrong with POST high school! isn't that saying the same as college? or is that between high school & college? that is scary!!
 
I just don't want this site to turn into a typical message board. Where the grammar police reign supreme. The messages themselves should be the in the forefront. You can understand what is being presented, address these aforementioned perpetrators individually. I don't like children to be called out in such a brash way.
 
Ha! He says the "kids" are doing these mistakes as if they were the only ones doing it. The fact is that everyone is doing them, wanting or not. All we can do is our best.
 
Wow... if you think my little post is "brash".. you haven't seen anything yet! the real world - out there *points to the door* - will prove that! I'm like playing teacher here (or tutor), that's all i'm doing. I'm being the nice guy by doing flavorflav and all the members a favor by pointing it out.. the real world wouldn't give it to you on a platter like that - they'd make you find it yourself and maybe (if your lucky) help you find the answer, but only AFTER they're done laughing in your face.

during all the years that JC's been up, the grammar police have only stopped by a few times when it seemed like it was needed. in past posts, it's been known that new members will sometimes be reprimanded or ignored for making so many grammar and/or spelling errors or trying to talk "instant/text message" speech on this board. trying to encourage everyone to not make such mistakes and checking your verbage before posting should be just as important as the information your talking about in the threads.

I don't think we have a problem with making grammar the top priority here since aviation is the top priority. but grammar & spelling should be at the top of the list when posting, in order to not irritate all of the users, who only want to help people with their questions.

and don't get me wrong.. i'm not saying that all grammar and spelling has to be exactly correct all the time - like Brian pointed out earlier, non of my posts use capital letters..but the post should at least be readable, more than flavorflav's post (if you know what i mean).

we don't type perfect all the time (myself included), and one of the biggest problems is that we sometimes type TOO FAST (which is usually where all the errors occur), but it should be a priority to do your own QA/QC (Quality Assurance/Quality Control) before you hit the submit button. a few minor mistakes, fine.. but so many? not so fine IMO.

my "brash" lesson of the day -> be accountable, be responsible, take constructive criticism like a pro and check your engrish before you hit the final submit button!
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...the real world wouldn't give it to you on a platter like that - they'd make you find it yourself and maybe (if your (you're) lucky) help you find the answer, but only AFTER they're done laughing in your (O.K.) face.

...trying to encourage everyone to not make such mistakes and checking your (O.K.) verbage before posting should be just as important as the information your (you're) talking about in the threads.

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Just beating Tony to the punch.....
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(Just to be fair, I still screw up affect / effect.....)
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I always mess up then and than. I type it how it sounds in my head which is usually wrong. Oh well. You all love me despite don't ya?
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I didn't know the difference between then and than until I asked my 7th grade teacher. But that was because I was still learning English which is my second language.

My 7th grade teacher was only my teacher because he lost his medical due to a knee injury. He was a pilot for UPS. It was always fun to ask questions about airplanes. All he did was assign us work and go online to look at aircraft for sale. When we had substitute teachers, it was usually due to him going in a cross country with his dad.

I wish I could locate my teacher once again. I know he lives down here in South Florida. I just don't have his contact info. I could get him to join JC.
 
Grammar and spelling are pet peeves of mine too.
The real world doesn't accept this kind of garbage so why should we put up with it here.
This site isn't as bad as some others I frequent.
Car sites and PDA sites have quite a bit of dense people.
 
Hmmmm...webmaster's wife has a peeve about poor spelling? Perhaps she could persuade him to install a spell check feature?
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Ore elss we'l just half to keeps peling bad.
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Eye find it reely anoying two. As pielets, we shood al no betta. We payd alot of muney four ow edumacation! Lets yous it two ow advantedge.

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