I copied this from my other thread titled "commercial students part 141 vs 61" because I need some responses on this kind of quickly
Before you continue reading.. I have two commercial students that were part 61 and have over 220 hours toward their certificate.. and suddenly out of nowhere the Chief pilot switched them into a 141 program without their consent .. saying that this is to their benefit (I fail to see how this will benefit). He did this with many other students as well, private,instrument and commercial students. Many of the instructors here who have students that are in a similar situation are boggled and are wondering the same thing that I am wondering. The CP says everything is legal.. but the instructors on the other hand, including myself are questioning this. We dont want to immediately run to the FAA. However we need to know for sure the legality of all this before we make our case.
So here we go
Is it legal for the CP to backdate 141 enrollment certificates????
Heres what I mean.. two of my commercial students were training under part 61. Well after I found out that the students were enrolled into the 141 program I checked their certificates of enrollments which were signed by the CP and back dated. In fact, one of my students enrollment certificates was backdated for over a year ago (almost 2 to be exact).. And guess what? It was signed by the CP but he was not the CP back then.. Isnt this a problem?!!!
This is very frustrating for me and the student because the CP says to "give credit" for what they did during their part 61 training toward their part 141 training. And he think that somehow they will get done in less time now that they are in the 141 program.
Number one I have no clue how to "give credit". Hes not very good at explaining this part to me or the students.
Number two I thought that according to the 141 regs that only 25% of prior training (part 61) can be accepted toward the 141 training.
Again.. even so, im pretty darn sure our CP cant just "backdate" enrollment certificates like this and he completely messed this one up because the date which he signed it for he was NOT chief pilot!
Im very very confused... and quite frankly Im afraid to get myself into trouble with this.
Any help would be appreciated.
Before you continue reading.. I have two commercial students that were part 61 and have over 220 hours toward their certificate.. and suddenly out of nowhere the Chief pilot switched them into a 141 program without their consent .. saying that this is to their benefit (I fail to see how this will benefit). He did this with many other students as well, private,instrument and commercial students. Many of the instructors here who have students that are in a similar situation are boggled and are wondering the same thing that I am wondering. The CP says everything is legal.. but the instructors on the other hand, including myself are questioning this. We dont want to immediately run to the FAA. However we need to know for sure the legality of all this before we make our case.
So here we go
Is it legal for the CP to backdate 141 enrollment certificates????
Heres what I mean.. two of my commercial students were training under part 61. Well after I found out that the students were enrolled into the 141 program I checked their certificates of enrollments which were signed by the CP and back dated. In fact, one of my students enrollment certificates was backdated for over a year ago (almost 2 to be exact).. And guess what? It was signed by the CP but he was not the CP back then.. Isnt this a problem?!!!
This is very frustrating for me and the student because the CP says to "give credit" for what they did during their part 61 training toward their part 141 training. And he think that somehow they will get done in less time now that they are in the 141 program.
Number one I have no clue how to "give credit". Hes not very good at explaining this part to me or the students.
Number two I thought that according to the 141 regs that only 25% of prior training (part 61) can be accepted toward the 141 training.
Again.. even so, im pretty darn sure our CP cant just "backdate" enrollment certificates like this and he completely messed this one up because the date which he signed it for he was NOT chief pilot!
Im very very confused... and quite frankly Im afraid to get myself into trouble with this.
Any help would be appreciated.