Instrument Rating Checkride Equals Instrument Currency?

adk

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Can anybody point me to a reference stating that obtaining an instrument rating counts as an IPC?
 
Well, let's go deductive.

If I got a multi-engine rating today, wouldn't that ipso facto mean that I'm current an qualified in multi-engine aircraft?
 
Deductive reasoning isn't good enough for an argument started in the flight instructor lounge!
 
So one of the combatants thinks that if I got an instrument rating today, I could not fly legally under IFR later this afternoon?
 
adk said:
Deductive reasoning isn't good enough for an argument started in the flight instructor lounge!
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Remember, if any of the instructors in there start asking some funny questions about flight plans MAKE SURE you report their suspicious activity to the FAA.
 
Doug Taylor said:
So one of the combatants thinks that if I got an instrument rating today, I could not fly legally under IFR later this afternoon?
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He claims that the checkride needs to be signed off as an IPC. I've never heard anybody make this claim before, but I can't find anything in writing to shut him up.
 
I love flight instructors, I'm a flight instructor, but we have knack for chasing around the FARS until the obvious becomes complicated.
 
Without reading the letter linked, an instrument rating checkride covers all the IPC items in the PTS and then some, no?
 
adk said:
He claims that the checkride needs to be signed off as an IPC. I've never heard anybody make this claim before, but I can't find anything in writing to shut him up.
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The things CFI's (and pilots for that matter) come up with sometimes....Whatever happend to the K.I.S.S rule? ;)

Starts the clock, not an IPC. An IPC is an IPC and must be signed off as such.
 
adk said:
He claims that the checkride needs to be signed off as an IPC. I've never heard anybody make this claim before, but I can't find anything in writing to shut him up.
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Sounds like "he" is thinking in terms of the airlines. A 121 proficiency check, for instance, makes a 121 pilot instrument current for 121. However, said 121 pilot is not 91 instrument current unless they get the signoff in their logbook from the instructor pilot.
 
Douglas said:
I love flight instructors, I'm a flight instructor, but we have knack for chasing around the FARS until the obvious becomes complicated.
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+1

A CFI once asked me where it stated that an instrument rating is required to file IFR. He said he looked but couldn't find the reg-so maybe you didn't need the IR to file IFR. I told him I didn't know off hand, and I wasn't going to look for it. If he wanted to find out, I told him to go to the FSDO and present his CFII cert, and ask them ;)
 
Chief Captain said:
+1

A CFI once asked me where it stated that an instrument rating is required to file IFR. He said he looked but couldn't find the reg-so maybe you didn't need the IR to file IFR. I told him I didn't know off hand, and I wasn't going to look for it. If he wanted to find out, I told him to go to the FSDO and present his CFII cert, and ask them ;)
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Huh?
 
Doug Taylor said:
Well, let's go deductive.

If I got a multi-engine rating today, wouldn't that ipso facto mean that I'm current an qualified in multi-engine aircraft?
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I would have gone along with that logic until I came across the following from the FAA while doing some reading about Ground Instructors. Apparently the FAA ruled that being issued a Ground Instructor certificate does not meet recency requirements for teaching and one still needs to be signed off.

FAA Letter to Timothy Metzinger 18 May 2009
 
As a pilot you can not begin/end with reading the FARs. You need to look at legal interpretations from the FAA Legal Department and NTSB legal decisions. Many interpretations that would may or may not seem logical (such as the CFI check ride not counting as a flight review), can be found in the FAA Legal Decisions; same with NTSB Legal (such as the "a watch is not a clock" decision).
 
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