Instructing foreign student with foreign license

Shane Cassell

Shane Cassell

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I'm currently working with a gentleman from Italy to check him out in a Cherokee 140 so he can solo it. He has an FAA "endorsement" of sorts that allows him to act as PIC of an aircraft in the US as long as his Italian license and medical are current. The question that has come up is whether or not he can get a full FAA PPL based off of his current license or if he will need to do the training and checkride/written that all normal FAA applicants must go through. He's interested in getting a commercial license here in the US and though I don't know for certain, I feel as though he would need to have previously been issued a full FAA certificate to do so. I've been trying to find info and am having a tough time getting pointed in the right direction. Any help is greatly appreciated!
 
It sounds like he already has a piggyback license.

Full license would require checkride (there is no need for the PPL, if he already has one)

If you want to do any training, visa and TSA rules apply, or is he a green card?

Alex.
 
He does have the piggyback license. He's here on a student visa so you are correct regarding the TSA screening and such. One of the major issues we are having is that his Italian license is Day VFR only. I guess you have to get a night rating there or something like that. My understanding is that since he is limited to that in Italy, he is also limited to that here. I want him to be able to fly at night if he needs to.
 
He's going to school to be an aeronautical engineer, but he's living with a family that owns aircraft and who also fly them commercially. My understanding is that he would like to get work authorization and fly for them when he has time.
 
Shane Cassell said:
He does have the piggyback license. He's here on a student visa so you are correct regarding the TSA screening and such. One of the major issues we are having is that his Italian license is Day VFR only. I guess you have to get a night rating there or something like that. My understanding is that since he is limited to that in Italy, he is also limited to that here. I want him to be able to fly at night if he needs to.
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He can get a Student Pilot Certificate, and you can give him the proper training and endorsements to solo at night. If he wants a fully unrestricted FAA certificate, he needs to take a Private or Commercial checkride.
 
Edited for brevity, but we have to stop these kind of events from happening.

NTSB Identification: ERA12FA193
Accident occurred Thursday, February 23, 2012 in Key West, FL

The pilot's private pilot certificate was issued on the basis of his Polish private pilot license, which did not authorize VFR night flights (his FAA certificate required him to comply with all restrictions and limitations of his Polish private pilot license). A review of his rental checkout form indicated that he had not received a checkout for night operations.

The pilot-rated passenger's certificate did authorize him for night VFR flights, but the lack of a discernable horizon would have required him to reference the airplane's flight instruments to maintain attitude. Since he was not instrument-rated, was seated in the right front seat of the airplane, and did not have flight instruments mounted in the panel in front of him, it is unlikely that he could have positively influenced the outcome of the flight.
 
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