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sub-stdrd phrsology girl

sub-stdrd phrsology girl

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Alright I'm so confused, I got an invitation to attend the ZTL PEPC on April 7, 2008 but I hadn't taken the AT-SAT yet so they told me I couldn't go...So i take the test on April 8 and got my score on the 14th (100)...I call the people in OKC to try to get in on the Dallas PEPC and I'm informed that my original offer was an administrative error :confused: If anyone has any suggestions of who to call and talk to so I can get this show on the road I would really appreciate any imput
 
Are you on a referral list yet? That will be the thing that will start the ball rolling, as far as I understand it. Then you can get an interview and the like.
 
No I'm not on any refferal list, but I had already been invited to attend the one in Atlanta, which is why I can't understand why they won't just schedule me for the Dallas one.
 
sub-stdrd phrsology girl said:
I call the people in OKC to try to get in on the Dallas PEPC and I'm informed that my original offer was an administrative error :confused:
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If it was an administrative error, then why would you get to go to the Dallas PEPC? I was under the impression you only got to go to a PEPC if you were referred for a position somewhere.
 
kcarpentier said:
If it was an administrative error, then why would you get to go to the Dallas PEPC? I was under the impression you only got to go to a PEPC if you were referred for a position somewhere.
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Exactly my point.

Without being on a referral list, nobody has indicated they are interested in hiring you yet Sub. Until that happens, there will be no PEPC. The PEPC is a streamlined process to help those that have been identified for interviews in specific geographic locations get their security check, medical screenings, etc.

So, if it was an administrative error that you were put on a PEPC list and you aren't on a referral list anywhere, you were never eligible for the PEPC, which is why you won't be going to Dallas.
 
Your not going by what ASAP tells you right? I'd call OKC and find out if you have been referred in their computer systems. ASAP isn't always correct.
 
I hear what you're saying about the referral lists, but I already know that the manager of ZTL wanted to talk to me, and was invited to the Atlanta PEPC (4/7/2008) under an early selection process and was told that once I had taken the AT-SAT I could schedule my PEPC and now I'm being told something completely different. I was hoping that someone would've been able to direct me to someone that may have been able to help, but am met with hardly any response that is not riddled with the demeanor which one would use in talking to a five year old and sarcasm.
 
I'm sincerely sorry that you feel people are talking down to you and being sarcastic; I for one know that I was trying to be helpful and not condescending. However, that being said...I reiterate my inital postings...if they clearly told you that you were invited to the Atlanta PEPC via administrative error I'm not sure what further clarification you need or want.

I'm assuming for purposes of this discussion that you are an OTS candidate, and not a military controller or CTI, since you haven't indicated either. As an OTS, there are a lot of people here who have been trudging through this process for quite some time, and if there were some "magic" get-me-hired-now button, I'm sure that somebody would have found it. Alas, it doesn't exist...which is why we were asking about referral lists and where you are in the process.

Accordingly, the onus is on the manager of ZTL (or whoever is representing GA in the selection panel) to place you on their referral list. I would start by calling him and asking what your next step is.
 
(405) 954-4657

Try that number. That was the number given to. I'm VRA, but i'm fairly certain they deal with OTS hires as well.

The problem is the whole hiring process is jacked up with so many applicants and a new hiring process that just started. There is no process where A happens, then B, then C, then you're hired. It's a long drawn out process where numerous things can and will go wrong. I'm dealing with one right now.

I've had to call twice to reiterate the fact I can't go to the Chicago PEPC in which I was assigned. I call OKC alot. I'm always friendly and BS with them a little before I start asking a million questions about the process and I'm glad I called. I've had to correct about 3 errors so far since February
 
sub-stdrd phrsology girl said:
I hear what you're saying about the referral lists, but I already know that the manager of ZTL wanted to talk to me, and was invited to the Atlanta PEPC (4/7/2008) under an early selection process and was told that once I had taken the AT-SAT I could schedule my PEPC and now I'm being told something completely different. I was hoping that someone would've been able to direct me to someone that may have been able to help, but am met with hardly any response that is not riddled with the demeanor which one would use in talking to a five year old and sarcasm.
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If you really expect people here who have been in the FAA application process for over a year to help you circumvent that process, you're just inviting sarcasm.

I agree with the previous poster. You need to get back in touch with the ZTL manager, and find out what the disconnect was. My feeling is that you made a bad assumption based on something he/she said.
 
sub-stdrd phrsology girl said:
I hear what you're saying about the referral lists, but I already know that the manager of ZTL wanted to talk to me, and was invited to the Atlanta PEPC (4/7/2008) under an early selection process and was told that once I had taken the AT-SAT I could schedule my PEPC and now I'm being told something completely different. I was hoping that someone would've been able to direct me to someone that may have been able to help, but am met with hardly any response that is not riddled with the demeanor which one would use in talking to a five year old and sarcasm.
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Here is my question for you...Why are you asking people on a forum a question if you '...already know the manager of ZTL wanted to talk to me?' If the manager really wanted to talk to you, then you should call that manager and ask them about how to go about your next steps. If you were 'under an early selection process,' then you shouldn't have a problem calling OKC or the manager at ZTL to find out what to do next.

If you are '...being told something completely different,' why don't you call the person who told you this information and ask them why things have changed in your selection process? People on here would do pretty much anything to get an offer, but we all know that you get invited to a PEPC after you take/score well enough on the AT SAT and get referred to a location. As stated to me and others before, 'you don't get ushered through the selection process.' It is 'at a snail's pace.' I guess my best advice to you is to sit back and be patient like the rest of us...
 
GeorgeM said:
If you really expect people here who have been in the FAA application process for over a year to help you circumvent that process, you're just inviting sarcasm.Please tell me how someone who is asking for help, is "INVITING sarcasm." Every man/woman for themselves, eh?:whatever:

I agree with the previous poster. You need to get back in touch with the ZTL manager, and find out what the disconnect was. My feeling is that you made a bad assumption based on something he/she said.
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Because like EVERYONE else in the forum, she is trying to get some INFORMATION!!! Not some shortcut or "magic" phone number, just some help. I can tell that the majority of you are young/inconsiderate/out for yourselves :drool:(three things I don't want from the controller sitting next to me)/typical of your generation. Me, me, me.:whatever:
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ATL, you're normally pretty even keeled, so I was suprised that you responded in the manner you did. I think she is getting the response she is from the majority of us for a couple of reasons (I know this is why I personally responded the way I did):

1. When people did try to respond in an intelligent, thoughtful way to her original posting, she flamed us as speaking to her sarcastically and like a five year old, even though the original responses were none of those things. When people tried to explain that their experience is you get an interview after being placed on a referral list, and not before...she didn't want to hear it, and began talking down to us.

2. After reviewing the answers that she had been given, and not liking a single one, she decided to inform all of us that she is "under an early selection process" and that she "already kn[e]w that the manager of ZTL wanted to talk to [her]" - somehow implying that she is being given special treatment compared to the rest of the OTS applicants. I'm sure to the majority of OTS applicants who have waited the better part of a year for an interview, the last thing they want to hear is someone bragging they think they're getting special treatment and that we just have no clue what we're talking about with our own experiences.
 
brianjgault said:
ATL, you're normally pretty even keeled, so I was suprised that you responded in the manner you did. Five mids in a row, one to go:drool:. No sleep. you're right, my bad. I think she is getting the response she is from the majority of us for a couple of reasons (I know this is why I personally responded the way I did):

1. When people did try to respond in an intelligent, thoughtful way to her original posting, she flamed us as speaking to her sarcastically and like a five year old, could see a little of it, :sarcasm: that is, 'course it's all how you interpret things or read into them. even though the original responses were none of those things. When people tried to explain that their experience is you get an interview after being placed on a referral list, and not before...she didn't want to hear it, and began talking down to us.

2. After reviewing the answers that she had been given, and not liking a single one, she decided to inform all of us that she is "under an early selection process" and that she "already kn[e]w that the manager of ZTL wanted to talk to [her]" - somehow implying that she is being given special treatment compared to the rest of the OTS applicants. I'm sure to the majority of OTS applicants who have waited the better part of a year for an interview, the last thing they want to hear is someone bragging they think they're getting special treatment You're right and that we just have no clue what we're talking about with our own experiences.
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After receiving a invite to take the ATSAT for CT back in August '07 the FAA e-mailed me reading I was selected to take the ATSAT for Hawaii. Then a couple hours later another e-mail...
The e-mail below was erroneously sent to all applicants for Hawaii rather than just the Hawaii test applicants. We apologize for this error on our part. We will resend the e-mail below within the next hour only to the applicants who have actually been selected for testing for the Hawaii announcement.
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Your error is obviously worse. Good luck with ZTL.
 
What is the problem? You received an invite to a PEPC without ever taken the AT-SAT, and when they correct their mistake you wonder why they are holding you back? YOU NEVER TOOK THE TEST THAT EVERYONE ELSE HAD TO. It was a mistake, plain and simple. You should obviously see that...regardless of wether or not you know someone at a center.
Sorry to say, but join the club. There are a bunch of us waiting for our opportunity...why do you think you deserve a free ride just because someone in OKC messed up?
 
Edward said:
What is the problem? You received an invite to a PEPC without ever taken taking the AT-SAT, and when they correct their mistake you wonder why they are holding you back? YOU NEVER TOOK THE TEST THAT EVERYONE ELSE HAD TO. It was a mistake, plain and simple. You should obviously see that...regardless of wether whether or not you know someone at a center.
Sorry to say, but join the club. There are a bunch of us waiting for our opportunity...why do you think you deserve a free ride just because someone in OKC messed up?
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See brianjgault, this is what I'm talking about. "Who do you think you are, blah, blah, blah."

And spel :drool:check. When you don't, who can take you seriously??
 
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