IFR Flight Plan for Check-ride?

That was exactly my point, but the CFI said it was mandatory. Here's the issue:

I'm training in Germany in a 172 that would be IFR certified in the states but because we are in Germany the plane is not legal because it does not have a DME with Harmonic Filtering (we use the GPS for DME). Also we are missing a second altimeter. I’m toying with the idea of having the DPE come to Germany but technically we can't even file IFR due to local laws.

I sent an email to the DPE... I'll let everyone know what he says.

Yes, since you are doing the checkride in Germany, you have to file IFR for the ride. You are operating in their airspace and have to obey their ATC rules, even if you're flying a N-registered 172.

You can also put the examiner's name as PIC in field 19-C and your name in the space for 'who filed the flight plan'. Be sure to put IFR-checkride or something similiar in the remarks section(18: RMK/...), most controllers will try not to give you a hard time.

Be sure to check if you really need that special DME. We are also supposed to have a seperate DME in the aircraft (besides the mandatory RNAV-GPS, most have the 430s or 530s) and two altimeters. But I'm sure, there is no 'harmonic DME' required in Austria and we also fly our planes to Germany. I am also aware of the new Mode-S-Transponder requirement, but I don't think it will really come already in Spring of next year. Judging from the speed things happen in aviation in Europe, I would say it takes at least another 2-3 years.
 
Just got off the phone with a CFI and he thinks that I need to file an IFR flight plan when I go see a DPE next month for a check-ride.

For some reason I don't believe that to be that case. Anyone know if there is a requirement to file IFR for an IFR check-ride? :confused:


File it, activate it......then cancel at given intersection or point or time.
 
I had to file for mine, and the DE I used in TX had my students file as well. He always cancelled the flight plan after shooting the approaches. There are a lot of DEs out there that want to know you can file a flight plan. Believe me, I've seen plenty of IFR rated pilots that couldn't call 1800WXBRIEF and file without the AOPA flight planner to do it for them.

I used to teach arcs the same way Lloyd did. Had a few students say "Huh? You can DO that?" the first few times I did it. Same DE in TX would make up an arc as part of the checkride, too.
 
I had to file a flight plan during my checkride and then activate it. I think we flew the route for about 20 mins then canceled.

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You do not have to file IFR for an IFR checkride. My instrument and ATP were both done under simulated instrument conditions (hood) under no vfr or ifr flight plan. If the laws in germany allow you to shoot approaches, etc. etc. in VFR conditions, then I would say you shouldn't have a problem.........each examiner will want something else. I'm pretty sure there are FAA designated examiners in Germany....maybe ask them.......
 
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