Hypoxic Kalitta Crew audio

Being that we fly out of KYIP, we have listened to this many times in a few of my classes and even had a Kalitta II guy talk to us about it.

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I'm so playing that for the ground school class next week. Perfect way to review hypoxia/ resource management, that I taught yesterday.
 
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When I click the link a new browser window opens and I get a " Internet Explorer can't display this web page" along with the "diagnose connection problems"

This is happening to me with other links as well. Any ideas as to what's wrong?

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Mariano said:
Momentary thread hijack!!

When I click the link a new browser window opens and I get a " Internet Explorer can't display this web page" along with the "diagnose connection problems"

This is happening to me with other links as well. Any ideas as to what's wrong?

Thanks.
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I was very moved by this piece of audio. To hear the very deliberate and strained voice so clearly desperate to communicate is soul piercing. To imagine myself in his position is frightning and difficult. Good job to the controllers and anyone invloved in the safe end of this event.

I will share this with all future students.
 
Wow...
Man, this could've ended much worse than it did. :clap: to the controllers. Does anyone know how accessible the gas masks are in flight? And what happens if a pilot is fumbling to put it on and trying to control the aircraft at the same time? In the flight levels, I think I read that there are only about 15 seconds of useful consciousness before the hypoxia knocks you out.
 
DeuceOfAces said:
Does anyone know how accessible the gas masks are in flight? And what happens if a pilot is fumbling to put it on and trying to control the aircraft at the same time? In the flight levels, I think I read that there are only about 15 seconds of useful consciousness before the hypoxia knocks you out.
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Our O2 masks are right behind our "outside" shoulder. Left shoulder for the CA, right shoulder for the FO. They're the "quick donning" type and they're pretty quick to get on. Part of our memory items are to put the mask on, then do whatever you have to do. You aren't going to run into a mountain in the US at FL360, so let the plane turn or start a descent or whatever just get the mask on. As someone wiser than I once said, Nothing that happens in the next 3 seconds will kill you...but what you do in those 3 seconds could kill you. Put the mask on, then once you've got some air you can go ahead and get back to flying the plane and managing the situation.

I'm really paranoid about it and I probably piss off the FO (it pisses off the boss since we fill the bottle quite a bit), but I make him wear the mask at the required altitudes. Just in case. I'm also pretty paranoid about monitoring the pressurization system, too.

-mini
 
The O2 masks in jets are easily accessible and designed to put on in mere seconds when needed. The problem with hypoxia is that it can just sneak up on you. Especially if plane isn't pressurizing or has a slow leak. The UAC will also vary somewhat between individuals.


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minitour said:
Our O2 masks are right behind our "outside" shoulder. Left shoulder for the CA, right shoulder for the FO. They're the "quick donning" type and they're pretty quick to get on. Part of our memory items are to put the mask on, then do whatever you have to do. You aren't going to run into a mountain in the US at FL360, so let the plane turn or start a descent or whatever just get the mask on. As someone wiser than I once said, Nothing that happens in the next 3 seconds will kill you...but what you do in those 3 seconds could kill you. Put the mask on, then once you've got some air you can go ahead and get back to flying the plane and managing the situation.

I'm really paranoid about it and I probably piss off the FO (it pisses off the boss since we fill the bottle quite a bit), but I make him wear the mask at the required altitudes. Just in case. I'm also pretty paranoid about monitoring the pressurization system, too.

-mini
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Bandit_Driver said:
The O2 masks in jets are easily accessible and designed to put on in mere seconds when needed. The problem with hypoxia is that it can just sneak up on you. Especially if plane isn't pressurizing or has a slow leak. The UAC will also vary somewhat between individuals.


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That's good news. I bet in the newer FBW jets (A320, 737's) the airplane might automatically descend the airplane or at least sound the master caution siren.
 
I, too, did a high altitude chamber. I did it at SAMI in Melbourne, FL and got to experience the effects on my flying while hypoxic using Flight Simulator. Sure was interesting... Simple directions such as turn right 270 and climb and maintain FL 300 just went straight through me, or I just kept turning and turning or climbing... Excellent experience.

Someone asked about how quickly his behavior went back to normal-- it's pretty much immediate. I put on my mask, filled my lungs with aviators oxygen, and I was good to go! Signs and symptoms disappeared.
 
African_Swallow said:
Wow! It sounded like the crew never realized anything was awry (e.g., how they were mumbling) besides the difficulty controlling the a/c and reason for declaring the emergency.
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That's exactly how hypoxia works.

The training that the military (and the FAA) conducts is how to recognize your specific, personal symptoms of hypoxia.

Those symptoms are often very insidious and differ from person to person.
 
minitour said:
Our O2 masks are right behind our "outside" shoulder. Left shoulder for the CA, right shoulder for the FO. They're the "quick donning" type and they're pretty quick to get on. Part of our memory items are to put the mask on, then do whatever you have to do. You aren't going to run into a mountain in the US at FL360, so let the plane turn or start a descent or whatever just get the mask on. As someone wiser than I once said, Nothing that happens in the next 3 seconds will kill you...but what you do in those 3 seconds could kill you. Put the mask on, then once you've got some air you can go ahead and get back to flying the plane and managing the situation.

I'm really paranoid about it and I probably piss off the FO (it pisses off the boss since we fill the bottle quite a bit), but I make him wear the mask at the required altitudes. Just in case. I'm also pretty paranoid about monitoring the pressurization system, too.

-mini
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At ACE its common practice to sync the bleeds at altitude so that torques and temps are even, but every now and then at FL250 you'd get a cabin altitude light because the other bleed wasn't strong enough to pressurize the cabin. First time I saw that happen, I was somewhat alarmed, and watched that pressurization gauge and included it more frequently in my scan.
 
"Other than that. Everything A-OKAY."

RIIIIIIIGHT..... Scary audio indeed. I'd like to try one of those chambers.



The "Four of Spades" military video showing the effects of hypoxia. A good video except for the annoying lady who puts the microphone inside her mouth and talks loudly.

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DeuceOfAces said:
That's good news. I bet in the newer FBW jets (A320, 737's) the airplane might automatically descend the airplane or at least sound the master caution siren.
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Most transport category planes that I know of have them. Even the earliest 727's and 737's have a cabin altitude warning horn.
 
It was a lear, I'm told. Love the guy on the radio, very operational, even starving for oxygen. I'd be alternating between a littany of personal regret and speculating on the sexual characteristics of my buddy's moms. Kudos, etc.
 
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