Hurray foreign students.

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Roger said:
I know. I felt like a tool about it immediately afterward. It'd been a long day and I was already cranky about something or other.
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No worries, I've been in the same spot and done similar things myself.
 
KSCessnaDriver said:
What kind of plane was it. Perhaps strobes were the only form of anti-collision lighting on the aircraft? I know that on Diamonds and Cirri, that is the only thing you've got. I also know that some guys are idiots, and think that you have to run them 24/7, as opposed to using the navigation lights when on the ground.
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the SR20's i flew had Nav lights
 
I'm sure that somewhere between learning and knowing, most if not all pilots were told that "...beacon lights are to be used to tell everyone else that the aircraft's engine is/or will be running..." Also, I have experienced panels that have a switch labelled "Beacon" but in fact it operates the strobes. Assume it is ignorance on the part of the student that you are being blinded by the strobes. Why would someone do that on purpose?

I think that it is only appropriate to contact ground and ask them to inform N#XXXXX that their strobes are at the vey least annoying. Ground frequency is not an open channel for airplane to airplane communication. Besides, a little humility on the part of the instructor would be in order. The CFI should be teaching runway manners and etiqette (for lack of better terms).

However, if they (foreign or domestic) students continue to rudely flash their strobes, backhand the pricks, or take an N number!!!
 
Doesn't the FAA "suggest" that an airplane only turn on strobes when cleared to takeoff?

Asking somebody, albeit tactfully, to do something in the name of airmanship isn't unprofessional.
 
Some of the aircraft I fly only have a singular "Anti-Collision Light" switch which I find particularly annoying as it operates both the beacon and the strobes at the same time. Now how am I supposed to be courteous at night? bah, I try to avoid those ones on night flights.
 
ClearedToTakeoff said:
Some of the aircraft I fly only have a singular "Anti-Collision Light" switch which I find particularly annoying as it operates both the beacon and the strobes at the same time. Now how am I supposed to be courteous at night? bah, I try to avoid those ones on night flights.
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turn on the nav's only
 
I agree that strobes on during taxi are annoying, and potentially hazardous, but why call out the fact that the pilot was foreign? What's that got to do with the price of eggs?
 
Because my first clue that he was a bit behind the power curve (so to speak) was when his radio work was so bad that it took him 4 calls to ground to get taxi instructions. Also he sounded so much like Apu on the Simpsons that I just about laughed out loud.

As has been previously noted, I was exhausted and acting like a jerk at the time.
 
Roger said:
Because my first clue that he was a bit behind the power curve (so to speak) was when his radio work was so bad that it took him 4 calls to ground to get taxi instructions. Also he sounded so much like Apu on the Simpsons that I just about laughed out loud.

As has been previously noted, I was exhausted and acting like a jerk at the time.
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I love the parrots

Was doing a downwind departure yesterday and had someone doing an IFR flight in a 172 (foreign student) takeoff after me.

Controller: Cessna 1 Sierra Papa, contact Socal Approach. Have a good flight.
Student: Contact SoCal Approach, have a good flight. Cessna 1 Sierra Papa.
 
ClearedToTakeoff said:
Some of the aircraft I fly only have a singular "Anti-Collision Light" switch which I find particularly annoying as it operates both the beacon and the strobes at the same time. Now how am I supposed to be courteous at night? bah, I try to avoid those ones on night flights.
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You can be courteous because the regs say you can.


91.209

No person may:

(b):Operate an aircraft that is equipped with an anticollision light system, unless it has lighted anticollision lights. However, the anticollision lights need not be lighted when the pilot-in-command determines that, because of operating conditions, it would be in the interest of safety to turn the lights off.


Blinding other pilots at a busy airport could easily be a safety concern, not to mention the loss of their night vision because of the bright white flash of the strobes.
 
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