Homeland security conceeds defeat

Well if we use the logic that for every lunatic who gets arrested on an airplane for trying to blow up his shoe, water bottle, genitals etc we lose "rights" on an airplane....we are getting pretty close to the standard issue straight jacket and rusty handcuffs amenity pack aren't we?
 
ILSstud said:
Well if we use the logic that for every lunatic who gets arrested on an airplane for trying to blow up his shoe, water bottle, genitals etc we lose "rights" on an airplane....we are getting pretty close to the standard issue straight jacket and rusty handcuffs amenity pack aren't we?
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You're going down the right logic road, my friend. Again, why the last one hour? Why not the first one hour? Or the whole flight?

Knee-jerk "feel good" rules. And the muck-up for this guy being on the flight wasn't even on our end.
 
bandit_driver]CON AIR?[/quote] You got it said:
You're going down the right logic road, my friend. Again, why the last one hour? Why not the first one hour? Or the whole flight?
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This rule is way to simple to work, here is my assessment of a far better rule:

Adults can't move for the first 15 minutes and last 7 minutes of every hour. Kids over 12 can move between 25 and 32 past the hour and kids under 12 get stowed in the baggage compartments for the duration of the flight.
 
Ladies and gentleman welcome on board.....

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Your flight is under the command of Captain.....
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Is this really what we have to look forward to?? Dang...incidently, I really can't stand Nicholas Cage!
 
Man, I remember after the Richard Reid thing when we started having to take off our shoes; someone made a comment like "too bad there wasn't a bra bomber."
now it sorta happened and the results aren't as sexy as I imagined.
 
MikeD said:
This whole idiocy of "being in your seat for the last hour of the flight, with nothing in your lap" requirement thats coming out. Why the last hour? Why not the last 2 hours? Or the first one or two hours? Or the whole flight?

I mean, at what point are the people not going to put up with this crap anymore of simply following what they're told, no matter how asinine?

Post 9/11, we went to being treated like we're checking into Rikers Island when going through airport security. Then Reid tries to blow up his shoe, and we all have to take shoes off. Then some British guy tries to mix chemicals, and we can no longer have more thn 3 oz of anything. Then this clown from the other day causes "no doing anything for the last hour of the flight."

What needs to happen is for someone, preferable a whole airplane of people, to exercise some civil disobedience to this regulatory crap and say ENOUGH! What if, a whole airplane of pax decided we're going to play with our ipod for the last hour, or read a book, or do whatever....even though the FA tells them not to? I know the FA is doing his/her job, but if the whole airplane refuses to comply with this obvious idiocy, in a completely civil manner, what would happen? Arrest the whole aircraft from row 1A aft?

Something like this needs to happen, or the idiot politicaians and bureaucratic hacks (most of whom don't fly commercially and aren't affected by their own idiotic rules) will keep enacting this sort of crap on we the people.
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:yourock:

This latest knee-jerk rule is so asinine TSA is almost becoming a parody of itself.
 
Again, I feel quite compelled to post, but, who thinks up these rules? How often do they fly themselves?

Where has the practicality in these security rules gone?

Its a game fellas. History tells us these people will find new holes to exploit and that is truly the scary part in our profession just as nearly any other job out there.
 
"Welcome to Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta International Airport. In order to expedite your movement through the screening area, please have your boarding pass and photo ID available for verification. Remove shoes, belts, underwear, overcoats, and laptop computers from their cases and place them on the X-ray belt. Thank you, and have a nice flight" :drool:
 
germb747 said:
"Welcome to Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta International Airport. In order to expedite your movement through the screening area, please have your boarding pass and photo ID available for verification. Remove shoes, belts, underwear, overcoats, and laptop computers from their cases and place them on the X-ray belt. Thank you, and have a nice flight" :drool:
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Having worked in ATL for almost a year and a half (flew out of there at least 2 times a week)...that makes my skin crawl. I remember how much I'd hate going into security with the first shift of the morning...more grumpy than my 9th grade biology teacher on drugs...my god!
 
shdw said:
This rule is way to simple to work, here is my assessment of a far better rule:

Adults can't move for the first 15 minutes and last 7 minutes of every hour. Kids over 12 can move between 25 and 32 past the hour and kids under 12 get stowed in the baggage compartments for the duration of the flight.
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But what about kids who are 11 and born on Feb 29th of a leap year at 9:41AM and will pass their birthday during the first hour of the flight?
 
I'm just wondering how long are people going to put up with this for? Since xmas, Skywest has been only 77% ontime out of SFO, daily. Interestingly enough 30% or so of the flights come in from Canada at some point in their routing. How many people getting stranded in the US for days before they can be rebooked is it going to take before the men in charge realise airport security isn't doing anything but looking busy to make people feel better? Really, I'd like to know.

After 9/11 everyone was very understanding of the new measures, after this "attack" the rest of the world is just calling us pansies, or at least the people from abroad I've had to talk to at the customer service counter.
 
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