Good Captains

Cptnchia said:
I'm kinda speechless that here is this high a level of D-baggery. Sounds like a whole mess of insecure individuals out there.
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I was jumpseating, company metal. Me: Hi, I'm so an so, based in xyz, flying the 123 jet. Captain: "I don't know you"
Me: "I didn't ask you if you knew me, I was introducing myself" What a d-bag
 
I start Captain OE on Wednesday and I'm grateful to all the bad captains for reminding me of what not to do, and all the good captains who were amazing mentors and set great examples. That said, I'm probably gonna • it up because that's the human thing. They warned us it's pretty normal to micromanage the first 100 hours, for example. I'd like to be that cool captain that sits back and lets things go as long as possible so people can make mistakes and learn from their own mistakes, and then on the debrief offer a helpful tip or technique... but maybe when I'm brand new it's not the right time and/or place. This thread is interesting, though... some people get worked up over silly stuff. If an FO wants to hover over the flaps, I'll just explain what I'm thinking or why I'm waiting or how this all falls in accordance with executing my previously well briefed plan.... isn't that the point of CRM and communication?
 
chrisreedrules said:
Had a super senior dude for a trip not too long ago. He's about a year from retiring and has a reputation. My strategy is usually to kill them with kindness. On day 2 he absolutely lost his marbles on me because I was "sitting in my seat in a way that disrespected his cockpit" and then he proceeded to go on a 5 minute rant about how I didn't know chit and how he's "earned this" etc etc. Dude was really going off. So I sat there calmly, while he ranted and raved and when he finished I said in a really calm relaxed voice (like a mother trying to soothe her cranky toddler), "you know what I like about you"? Him: "WHAT DO YOU LIKE ABOUT ME!?" Me: "You're not afraid to speak your mind"... And then I just went back to what I was doing. I thought he was going to stroke out his face turned so red.
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You're better than me. I'll deal with a lot of crap with a smile, but this is one of those times I would've packed my things and called scheduling to let them know they're going to need a new FO for the rest of this pairing. Being nasty like that is uncalled for.
 
EIR said:
Well, in their defense:
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Okay, back to the good captain discussion.
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"Sorry about your penis" is all I can say when I see trucks like this.
 
phill1174 said:
You're better than me. I'll deal with a lot of crap with a smile, but this is one of those times I would've packed my things and called scheduling to let them know they're going to need a new FO for the rest of this pairing. Being nasty like that is uncalled for.
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I have done this once. In an outstation. Chief pilot told me I made the right call but did absolutely nothing about the captain.
 
chrisreedrules said:
Had a super senior dude for a trip not too long ago. He's about a year from retiring and has a reputation. My strategy is usually to kill them with kindness. On day 2 he absolutely lost his marbles on me because I was "sitting in my seat in a way that disrespected his cockpit" and then he proceeded to go on a 5 minute rant about how I didn't know chit and how he's "earned this" etc etc. Dude was really going off. So I sat there calmly, while he ranted and raved and when he finished I said in a really calm relaxed voice (like a mother trying to soothe her cranky toddler), "you know what I like about you"? Him: "WHAT DO YOU LIKE ABOUT ME!?" Me: "You're not afraid to speak your mind"... And then I just went back to what I was doing. I thought he was going to stroke out his face turned so red.
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Is this the same d-bag that loses his marbles when the FO's turn the radio dial counter-clockwise? If so I have a pretty good idea who you are talking about. Never had the pleasure of flying with him though.

I did however get to fly with @BobDDuck once. Many moons ago.
 
DeltaAlphaNovember said:
Is this the same d-bag that loses his marbles when the FO's turn the radio dial counter-clockwise? If so I have a pretty good idea who you are talking about. Never had the pleasure of flying with him though.

I did however get to fly with @BobDDuck once. Many moons ago.
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It may have been although he didn't say anything to me about which direction I turn the knob on the RTU. He did have several other *triggering* events that trip though. I could tell that he was dying inside having to fly with me by the end of day 3. It was a 28 hour 4 day though so neither of us were willing to call it quits. I told him at one point, "we just have to survive 4 days together then you'll never see me again and we can both go about our merry lives".

I think it honestly drove him a little crazy that he couldn't get a rise out of me like I'm sure he does most people.
 
And for me, truthfully, a lot of it simply comes down to the fact that there is absolutely nothing about this job that I find is worth getting worked up for. I sort of just laugh at the absurdity of all of it most days. What a strange, humorous, at times sickening industry we work in...
 
Screaming_Emu said:
There are a lot of things you hear in a brief that can be indicative of how the rest of the trip is going to go. When I hear "I'm only in this seat because I've been here longer than you..." it's usually been a good indication that this is a humble captain that knows the value of teamwork. I've got no time for idiots that try to assert dominance from the left seat.
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Mine will have to be "I'm only in this seat because I was stupid enough to sit on the bottom as captain instead of staying as a senior FO like you..."
 
chrisreedrules said:
It may have been although he didn't say anything to me about which direction I turn the knob on the RTU. He did have several other *triggering* events that trip though. I could tell that he was dying inside having to fly with me by the end of day 3. It was a 28 hour 4 day though so neither of us were willing to call it quits. I told him at one point, "we just have to survive 4 days together then you'll never see me again and we can both go about our merry lives".

I think it honestly drove him a little crazy that he couldn't get a rise out of me like I'm sure he does most people.
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I can't think of anybody that crazy when I was still there. We certainly had a few real winners, but not that bad. I wonder who it was that went so awful.
 
chrisreedrules said:
It may have been although he didn't say anything to me about which direction I turn the knob on the RTU. He did have several other *triggering* events that trip though. I could tell that he was dying inside having to fly with me by the end of day 3. It was a 28 hour 4 day though so neither of us were willing to call it quits. I told him at one point, "we just have to survive 4 days together then you'll never see me again and we can both go about our merry lives".

I think it honestly drove him a little crazy that he couldn't get a rise out of me like I'm sure he does most people.
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I'm just curious as to how one sits can be "disrespecting the cockpit" Did you take your pants off and drag your junk all over the yoke?
 
Cptnchia said:
I'm just curious as to how one sits can be "disrespecting the cockpit" Did you take your pants off and drag your junk all over the yoke?
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I was sitting sideways in the seat with one foot in the middle section between the seats while I programmed the FMS. He wasn't even in the cockpit while this was going on. But he took one look at me on his way back in and was triggered. :eek::fury:
 
BobDDuck said:
I can't think of anybody that crazy when I was still there. We certainly had a few real winners, but not that bad. I wonder who it was that went so awful.
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You would definitely know him. DL are his initials. I've heard from most that he's a tough pill to swallow. Some seem to get along with him though.
 
Cptnchia said:
I'm just curious as to how one sits can be "disrespecting the cockpit" Did you take your pants off and drag your junk all over the yoke?
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There is an urban legend about the copilot who rubbed the captains microphone muff in his butt crack while the captain was off doing his hero walk... [emoji23]


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