Going from corporate to airline flying?

Snow

Snow

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Hey I was just wondering. How much preference do major air carriers have for people with 121 experience over part 135 or 91 corporate flying? I'd like to fly for a regional but $18k, come on that's less than I make now riding in simulators and CFIing. Especially if I can get a job flying right seat in a King Air or Citation for $25-35k. But how likely am I going to be considered for employment by Southwest or whoever if they got a lot of CRJ captians applying (assuming I had 500-1000 multi-turbine pic by then)
 
SteveC said:
Going from corporate to airline?

Why would you want to go backwards?

:)
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Uh, cause airline pilots fly bigger equipment, have more days off and get paid more. Duh Not to mention actually having a schedule and not being on call most of the time.
 
Snow said:
Uh, cause airline pilots fly bigger equipment, have more days off and get paid more. Duh Not to mention actually having a schedule and not being on call most of the time.
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While they fly bigger equipment, pay and days off are comparable at places like Netjets and Flexjet.
 
Snow said:
Uh, cause airline pilots fly bigger equipment, have more days off and get paid more. Duh Not to mention actually having a schedule and not being on call most of the time.
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(hint, hint) Hes a corporate guy and did you notice the smile?:)

Alot of the time, corporate do have set schedules. Bigger Equipment, yes, but pay on a large Corp Jet is very good if your there for a long time.
 
Snow said:
Uh, cause airline pilots fly bigger equipment, have more days off and get paid more. Duh Not to mention actually having a schedule and not being on call most of the time.
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LOL:D

That is so not the case anymore. Have you been watching the news at all. The entire industry is going backwards. Forget the Majors for awhile. Find nice cushy schedule corp job or fly cargo.

IMO with as competative as the market is going to be the Majors will probably prefer 121 PIC time over 135. You may have a chance if you are flying a Global or G-stream.
 
Bandit_Driver said:
LOL:D

That is so not the case anymore. Have you been watching the news at all. The entire industry is going backwards. Forget the Majors for awhile. Find nice cushy schedule corp job or fly cargo.

IMO with as competative as the market is going to be the Majors will probably prefer 121 PIC time over 135. You may have a chance if you are flying a Global or G-stream.
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but if your flying a Global or GV, why quit?:)
 
Snow said:
Uh, cause airline pilots fly bigger equipment, have more days off and get paid more. Duh Not to mention actually having a schedule and not being on call most of the time.
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The airlines ahve none of these things (except maybe the bigger aircraft). Find a better corporate gig. Don't go airline.
 
Bandit_Driver said:
IMO with as competative as the market is going to be the Majors will probably prefer 121 PIC time over 135. You may have a chance if you are flying a Global or G-stream.
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I disagree here ... when the majors start hiring again it'll be 1,000 hours and a pulse will get you an interview. IMNSHO. Simply because there won't be anyone to interview.

The vast majority of the furloughees have moved on (United expects less than 50% of their 1,900 back); captains at regionals have established senority, schedules and paychecks they're not going to give that up to sit bitch at the bottom of a HUGE senority list; no one is going into civillian flight training anymore because a) it's too expensive and b) most people (those interested in going into the field as a craeer anyway) see the job for what it is now; and the military sure isnt training as many pilots and they sure aren't letting the ones they have, go.

So who will apply? Regional FO's. And since everyon is so "supply and demand" happy the supply of pilots will drive the applicable and "competitive" minimums.
 
pilot602 said:
I disagree here ... when the majors start hiring again it'll be 1,000 hours and a pulse will get you an interview. IMNSHO.
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but that isn't going to be anytime in the near future. When they begin to hire it will be a trickle and highly competative. I can't see the flood gates being opened on hiring.
 
n57flyguy said:
A lot of the time, corporate do have set schedules. Bigger Equipment, yes, but pay on a large Corp Jet is very good if your there for a long time.
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I would venture to guess that the larger corp departments have more of a set schedule. I don't think anyone would hesitate to take that job over a regional, and I don't believe they are on the same level. We're talking a fortune 100 flight department (several aircraft types, many pilots, etc.) vs. a regional. You most likely won't be able to get on at that level with 600-1000 TT and 100 multi, unless your father is the CP or CEO.

I was reading an article about an insurance company's flight department - their name escapes me - but they have several challengers and lears. They have 25 pilots and they are on a set schedule. When the pilots are "on", and not flying, they are doing paperwork, desk Iwork, etc. at the flight department headquarters. Pretty good gig.

Now, if you look at what most corporate departments are (one airplane, one to two full time pilots on beepers) I would think a regional could offer other benefits rather than just pay alone. A set schedule is worth quite a bit of compensation in my book, but that's just me. Others might like being on a beeper.

But comparing a fortune 100 (or whatever) flight department to a regional is like comparing working at a major to a regional, MO.
 
Bandit_Driver said:
but that isn't going to be anytime in the near future. When they begin to hire it will be a trickle and highly competative. I can't see the flood gates being opened on hiring.
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They havent hired (significantly) in nearly a decade and it'll be a few years before the crunch really hits. United is facing an 85% retirement of their active pilots over then next 5 years. They aint the only major that has an old pilot group nor are airlines the only field starting to feel the baby boomer void, cops, teachers, nurses almost every major field you can think of is beginning to lose people faster than they can hire.

It' won't be an "oipening" of the flood gates it'll be a katrina.
 
Here may or may not be a dumb question (Im somewhat new to commercial aviation) what is the right seat? Also, how much can a corporate pilot make (starting out and after a few years)?
 
TheOneMarine said:
Here may or may not be a dumb question (Im somewhat new to commercial aviation) what is the right seat? Also, how much can a corporate pilot make (starting out and after a few years)?
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The right seat is where the First Officer (co-pilot) sits.
 
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