Going from corporate to airline flying?
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pilot602
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JEP said:....Because you've just said Never twice....
I can say lots of things twice ... I can say lots of things twice
And actually there has been pilot shortages. United in the late '60s hired people off the street with a private. And other shortages throughout the years. Just because no one stopped flying doesn't mean there haven't been thin times for hiring pools in the past.
Snow
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I've heard netjets is a sucky company to work for. Also G-5 flying isn't as good as you think. Unless sitting on autopilot for 12-15hrs at a time sounds like fun. At least when they do it on the widebodies they have 3 or 4 pilots and a crew rest area. With a G-5 you might, might get a 3rd pilot if your lucky. Also there's no 1000hr a year limitation so expect to be doing this 4 or 5 times a week, not 4 to 5 times per month.
n57flyguy
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TheOneMarine said:
Well, this is very diverse. It can depend what aircraft your on and what company you work for. Say you start out on a King Air 200. You can make anywhere from about 25K-35K to start as an FO. Then you upgrade to Captain in three or four years and you can look at making about 60-70K+
The thing is that it depends on your connections and your time. There is no real specific answer to this but you can gerenalize what you would be making in a few years.
But on one extreme (the things you like to hear) you can make 125-150K flying a large Gulfstream or Global Express if youve been with the company for a few years. So could probably make more depending where you are.
Hope that helped some
deserteaglle
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n57flyguy said:
60-70 thousand after 3 or 4 years in a 200? HA! Where they hirin' with that kinda pay, I know a couple of people with more than 3 years experience in King Airs that would love to be makin' that much doin' it.
NJA_Capt
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Uh oh…..You went and poked the bear.Snow said:
You’ve heard? What personal information do you base your observation on? Second hand info from FSI clients that hate fractionals are not the most reliable sources.
….just like the airlines.Snow said:
As a matter of fact the GIV/V/550s DO carry extra pilots on the long range flights and the IS a crew rest area.Snow said:
The rest of your post shows a complete lack of understanding or familiarization with our operations. I will not argue semantics of frac vs airline, but lets just say that NJA duty and rest rules either meet or exceed those required in the airlines, and are far more conservative. There is also no such thing as "stand up" overnights.
When I was in New Jersey this past winter, I saw several NJA crews at the Embassy Suites in Secaucus (TEB), where we were staying. Nice Guys...
NJA seems like a pretty good place to work for. I'm always at the Fractional forums at FI and they seem to like it. Of course there are some complaints, but nothing is perfect.
They seemed to be complaining about some new contract or something that affected new-hires? Not sure what though.
They seemed to be complaining about some new contract or something that affected new-hires? Not sure what though.
Snow
'Not a new member'
You’ve heard? What personal information do you base your observation on? Second hand info from FSI clients that hate fractionals are not the most reliable sources.
I heard it from a past NetJets LR-45 pilot, he left to fly a privately owned LR-45, better pay and more time off. Granted he left about a year ago so I don't know what's changed since then. I can't remember the specifics but I remember him telling me he wasn't the only unhappy one there. I was actually suprised since I had thought they had the best of both worlds, corporate flying with airline type days off.
The rest of your post shows a complete lack of understanding or familiarization with our operations. I will not argue semantics of frac vs airline, but lets just say that NJA duty and rest rules either meet or exceed those required in the airlines, and are far more conservative. There is also no such thing as "stand up" overnights.[/QUOTE]
The comments about the G-5 was NOT in regard to a part 135 operation but a part 91 op, Ie not NetJets. I know an ex G-5 pilot who quit their job as a result. And have heard simular stories from a G-5 instructor. Sorry for the confusion.
I heard it from a past NetJets LR-45 pilot, he left to fly a privately owned LR-45, better pay and more time off. Granted he left about a year ago so I don't know what's changed since then. I can't remember the specifics but I remember him telling me he wasn't the only unhappy one there. I was actually suprised since I had thought they had the best of both worlds, corporate flying with airline type days off.
The rest of your post shows a complete lack of understanding or familiarization with our operations. I will not argue semantics of frac vs airline, but lets just say that NJA duty and rest rules either meet or exceed those required in the airlines, and are far more conservative. There is also no such thing as "stand up" overnights.[/QUOTE]
The comments about the G-5 was NOT in regard to a part 135 operation but a part 91 op, Ie not NetJets. I know an ex G-5 pilot who quit their job as a result. And have heard simular stories from a G-5 instructor. Sorry for the confusion.
NJA_Capt
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Last year, at the end of 4 years negotiating, not too many people were happy. Especially last summer. You would have had a very hard time finding a happy FO.Snow said:
I stand corrected. I would be happy to correct my post, but Doug only lets you edit for 8/10 of a second after you postSnow said:
(Come'on Doug, give us a day or two {months}to edit)
Looking4Lower
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Snow said:
Uh, does Netjets have LR-45s?
NJA_Capt
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No....The way I took it, he is a former NJA pilot who is now flying a Lear 45.Looking4Lower said:
Snow, Just to clarify. Did this guy fly with NJA, NJI, or EJM? For simplicity many people just say they flew for NetJets, instead of a particular division. We have even heard vendor pilots (charter sell offs) say they flew for NetJets. Good try, but no dice.