Getting IFR Clearance In the Air (ATC not happy)

aviator357 said:
It still isn't okay, but it is legal. Pilots should be able tell by the frequency congestion if we are going to have the time.
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Begging your pardon, but you can't tell if a controller is busy by how loud the frequency is. I've had an approach controller and an enroute controller independently tell me that.
 
Well since I am a controller and a pilot ( previous commercial) I can tell you that you can. If it is hard for you to check in or get a word in edge wise, that is frequency congestion.
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