Getting eaten alive by the Multi!!

I have about 6 hours in the BE76, getting close to my checkride, if you need ANY help let me know.

Here's what I do:

Entering downwind:
10 degrees flaps
Boost Pumps, Carb Heat, Gas, Undercarriage, Mixtures

Abeam your touchdown point:
Reduce to 13-15" on manifold pressure
A/S should be 96

Base:
Flaps 20
86 A/S

Final
Full Flaps
76 A/S
Props full forward
Verify 3 green
 
Congratulations, 62 hours can be a bit daunting in a multi.
I was overamped doing ab initiao in a M20S.
Everyone else was smoking thru while I couldn't qualify to solo, but what I did to turn the tide was draw out a takeoff/ landing pattern on a 4 x 8 whiteboard. I noted a # for every call out, airspeed, altitude thru out the whole enchilada.
To one side I marked out each of the #'s name & expected values. It worked overnight for a solo and for everything else later, cause I had the visual first, then as others have suggested here a mental image from the chair flying. The whiteboard allows to change steps as you learn more. The problem is if you only chairfly, perhaps crucial steps are left out. Open your eyes as you sit there-otherwise,often times you'll have to unlearn and then relearn if you're not careful.
Don't worry- it's not easy at first but I think you'll be fine! Just get the focus and enjoy!
 
Hit the sim to pratice some flows. If you can master a frasca 142, the plane will be cake. And watch some bob Hoover vids
 
Just make sure that in the pattern, you know whats going to happen next. If you get behind, it's because you are not thinking ahead.
 
minitour said:
More with John Madden after the break....:rotfl:

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I think you have to log like 75 hours before you can timebuild at the aviator anyways. Even after your multi add-on instrument rating and commercial cross countries you will have a few hours left over if you were to finish everything in the sylabus time. Sitting in a parked plane going over the maneuvers a few times before and after every lesson is a free and effective way to practice. Backseating someone elses lesson is also free. But you've probably already thought of that.
 
There are several pieces of good advice in this thread. The only thing I might add is that sitting in the airplane is not only free, it makes you more comfortable with the airplane.
 
The one thing I can add is this:

It's quicker to do it right the first time, than to screw it up, and have to do it all over....
 
LoadMasterC141 said:
As far as Stalls and Vmc....Have you ever spun a plane yet? If not, rent a spinnable plane and knowledgeable instructor for an afternoon. I reccomend an aerobatic aircraft so you can do even more upset training. I never felt 100% confident with Stalls and Vmc until I did this.
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dc3flyer said:
Only 62 hours and already working on the multi rating????? But then again, I didn't do mine until I aleady had the commercial/instrument.




Know the layout of the plane. Keep your checklist with you in the car. When you stop at a redlight, try to work on a checklist/flow. Imagine your instructor just pulled an engine on you and go through the procedure. Remember not to get in too big of a hurry, keep beat with the song on the radio. Mixtures.... Props.... Throttles... Identify... Dead foot is dead engine.... Verify.... and so on. Put your hands "on" those items (mimicking your movements in the airplane while you are in your car).




Remember that your speed is higher in a twin than in a single. When you level off on base, it will not need to be as long as the wings level in a single.

The good news is that you have already identified a few areas that most people have a little problem on, and you know you need to imrove. You will get the hang of it with a little more time in the plane.
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Be; cognizant of the 'rudder' in a car, though--left rudder = brake--right rudder = accelerator. Getting 'too into it' while chair-flying a moving car can get 'interesting'.


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That said, chair fly every scenario 100 times. At about repition 25 you will start to get bored--and that is the point. Keep working to 100 and you will build muscle memory and you won't have to think as hard in the airplane. HOWEVER! be VERY SURE your techiques are correct before you go repping like that.

Good luck! Please update us when you get the rating!

Cordially,

b.
 
jspeed87 said:
lol I'm at Ari Ben. Anyways multi time is better. Keeps you sharp and thinking ok what's next. Which is what my instructor keeps drilling into my head. Think What's next and stop daydreaming!!
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First, as stated your discomfort probably comes from having less than 70 hours total time. Upgrading to a multi with that little experience would be daunting to most people.

However, I don't get it as to why you think multi time is better with the experience you have currently. Even if you do everything else in a twin, instrument, commercial and MEI - what will you have? 280 total time, 200 multi?

That doesn't really make you marketable.

I'm not chastizing you for your training, but to me it doesn't make sense to spend money that doesn't increase your marketability at this stage in the game. Maybe at 800 tt I would say that working on building multi time would be a good investment, but not at 70.
 
moxiepilot said:
First, as stated your discomfort probably comes from having less than 70 hours total time. Upgrading to a multi with that little experience would be daunting to most people.

However, I don't get it as to why you think multi time is better with the experience you have currently. Even if you do everything else in a twin, instrument, commercial and MEI - what will you have? 280 total time, 200 multi?

That doesn't really make you marketable.

I'm not chastizing you for your training, but to me it doesn't make sense to spend money that doesn't increase your marketability at this stage in the game. Maybe at 800 tt I would say that working on building multi time would be a good investment, but not at 70.
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I'm not saying it would increase your chances of getting a job, but it will keep your skills sharp. Because you are dealing with two engines rather then one. So that's double the systems and things you have to deal with.
 
jspeed87 said:
What speed should I be on downwind and base turns? Like in the Cessna I trim for 80 knots abeam the numbers, base at 65-70 that always puts me at a stable final approach.
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Someone's probably already posted you speeds. It's been years since I've flown the duchess (about 140hrs in it) but I remember flying downwind at 100, base at 90, final at 80kts. So those speeds I don't know how you're still flying.

Re: feeling in control of the airplane - it comes with time. Everytime you move up to a different aircraft it takes time - Doing the Duchess as my first multi - it took be about 25 hours to feel like I was in control of the aircraft as opposed to hanging on to the tailplane. moving over to the Seminole from the Duchess it took about 10 hours, moving up to a Baron took another 10 hours. Once I moved into turbine equipment I think it took about 100 hours to get used to a 1900, another 100 hours to get used to the other side of the 1900, a 150 hours to get used to a CRJ, another 100 hours to get used to an Emb. - that is the time it took me to feel like I was in control of the airplane.
 
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