tcco94
Future GTA VI Pilot
Poetic
Furlough Estimates
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Rocketman99
Frozen Guppy Manipulator
One man's trash is one man's slightly more enticing trash.
Nobody gets into this business wanting to retire as an FO.
Not everyone cares about being a Captain. 5.5 years an FO now after having done the CA thing at the regionals for 9 years. There's still zero incentive or motivation for me to do it again other than it pays a little more money, and that's not enough incentive.
JordanD
Chinese Food Enthusiast
I get that til retirement it’s a lot of money, but at what point does the money of taking first upgrade at a major and having an awful schedule outweigh cherry picking your schedule and still making more money than most people? Seems like an easy trade off for me.
Rocketman99
Frozen Guppy Manipulator
Yep. CA money + awful schedule (or reserve) = poor QOL No thanks, I'm good.
tcco94
Future GTA VI Pilot
Depends on where you are in your career...
What I don't have sympathy is for regional FO'S wanting to cherry pick and get a good QOL making ok money cry and complain about junior captains or captains who are younger than them and how they get calls to move on and they don't. That is something I will not entertain
What I don't have sympathy is for regional FO'S wanting to cherry pick and get a good QOL making ok money cry and complain about junior captains or captains who are younger than them and how they get calls to move on and they don't. That is something I will not entertain
it’s fun listening to them complain on CTAF at 1am about how they are stuck where they are and hate it. Mostly the Mesquite guys, but occasionally Oxford chiming in....
tcco94
Future GTA VI Pilot
I remember those days except all the conversations were "when you getting out" like we were some type of prisoners getting out to enjoy our lives. Can only imagine how dark those nights are right now lol
the conversation on CTAF has shifted from “when’s your Skywest class?” to complaining again about the job, the students, grab ass conversation, and general screwing off in the stack. At that hour, it’s just them and me.
Rocketman99
Frozen Guppy Manipulator
That's totally different. You're not getting out of the regionals (99% of the time) without PIC, so you bite the bullet regardless if that means a crap schedule or reserve and take the upgrade whenever it comes. The goal is to get out and get to a major/legacy/porn career/whatever, so that's short term pain toward your goal.
Sculprit
Well-Known Member
Its the “AeroSun” folks now
That analogy is actually pretty spot on still. Now that they’ve been furloughing CFIs, a lot of the instructors are like the unhinged kook imate that is sitting on death row waiting anxiously/excitedly to get execu...I mean furloughed hahaha.
Maximilian_Jenius
Super User
@tcco94 no one is hiring instructors here. Unless you have gangbusters of dual given.
@Flyinthrew all the schools that I've contacted are part 61 and do the 5 day program.
JordanD
Chinese Food Enthusiast
Most definitely, regional is another thing. Bare you teeth and take it, and hopefully be lucky enough to get out.
roundout
VNAV monitor
Get your piece of paper, find your own students. It's harder in some ways, but also easier, because you make more money and set your own schedule. Even just a few students billed direct to your pocket would pay better than having a full load at a pilot mill type school.
tcco94
Future GTA VI Pilot
Get your CFI. Of course no one is hiring today. To be frank and honest trying to find a flying job today especially with a wet commercial won't get you anywhere. Focus on the CFI rating first, it's going to be your most difficult rating too. But your most rewarding
BEEF SUPREME
Well-Known Member
Nothing was better than being a King Air Captain back in the day. I’d upgrade at the first chance I could. Not that I’ll have a chance for a long time. Kind of funny we are talking about upgrades now.
I can’t even imagine when that will happen
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I can’t even imagine when that will happen
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Inverted25
Well-Known Member
5 days? There is a guy around here who you fly with twice on day one. Then day two you fly with him in morning and checkride in afternoon. In and out in two days
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BEEF SUPREME
Well-Known Member
Man. I was wondering why all those people keep dying in ME airplanes...
Wonder no more!!
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Skåning
Well-Known Member
Sheble was quick, is he still around? Who am I kidding, he was a million years old 13 years ago
Skåning
Well-Known Member
808 retirements in the next 10 years is about 28% of the list. So someone hired today would be looking at 20+ years to get to 60% on the list, junior capt territory.
VX hired tons of young folks and skews 10 ish years younger compared to eskimo. The chief pilot call today said hiring planned for next summer if things get better or pushed to 2023 if not.
come to the evil side. Come to rotary wing.
