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I don't doubt that its allowed. It just seems like a consequential LOA for the pilot group to be kept in the dark on.

I agree. And that's why I put it in our policy manual that any changes to the CBA had to go to pilot group vote. But not every pilot group seems to care that much about it.
 
I agree. And that's why I put it in our policy manual that any changes to the CBA had to go to pilot group vote. But not every pilot group seems to care that much about it.

That's also not always possible to do if there are time constraints involved. We did a few LOAs over here that modified the bidding timeframe and changed how some additional flying gets awarded. They were all for things that would be happening in a few days. If we'd had to go through memrat on them it would have taken several weeks.

There is something to be said for requiring a membership vote on items that effect pay or quality of life, but any CBA change is a bit hard to do.
 
That's also not always possible to do if there are time constraints involved. We did a few LOAs over here that modified the bidding timeframe and changed how some additional flying gets awarded. They were all for things that would be happening in a few days. If we'd had to go through memrat on them it would have taken several weeks.

There is something to be said for requiring a membership vote on items that effect pay or quality of life, but any CBA change is a bit hard to do.

I disagree, and we made it work for years. Does it make things more difficult? Yes. But I never felt comfortable amending the CBA without the people who voted to ratify it approving that change.
 
That's also not always possible to do if there are time constraints involved. We did a few LOAs over here that modified the bidding timeframe and changed how some additional flying gets awarded. They were all for things that would be happening in a few days. If we'd had to go through memrat on them it would have taken several weeks.

There is something to be said for requiring a membership vote on items that effect pay or quality of life, but any CBA change is a bit hard to do.
It's a challenge to weigh the day to day runnings of the union and doing something for a whole pilot group, vs a more direct democracy. The last time I volunteered was a regional where the pilots level of care was pretty low (because life was pretty good for us). When it was bad, 2014 bad at edv, you had a lot of screaming and yelling but no one really involved or vote wise willing to go against what we advised.

The union is a reflection of the pilots, I'm glad there's a level of decision making at each company union to decide for themselves how they're gonna do things. What works at one union may not work at another.
 
I qualify and I’m still in my 40’s. If it was 5 years of pay plus medical until I’m Medicare-qualified, I would take it!

That right there is the issue. Paying 15+ years of medical insurance on your own, at the level of coverage you have now, is going to eat up a lot of that cheddar you think you are going to be stacking while chilling at home.

If one has another source of coverage (spouse, other job etc) it's way more easy to consider, but the Medicare age sure as hell isn't coming down any time soon and the likely of it staying the same is pretty low too.
 
I qualify and I’m still in my 40’s. If it was 5 years of pay plus medical until I’m Medicare-qualified, I would take it!

#whatever......
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No tats and Im more an Orange Theory guy. Nothing heavy, some weights but more HIT workouts. Dropped about 35lbs. only picked up 5-10 during COVID shutdown. but we are back open now....

See, the picture of the dude that you poste... aww, nevermind.
 
I get it......While I have the tshirt its not me....you're playing on the picture

I qualify for that shirt too, but wouldn’t wear it because people would probably say “ wow, I thought you were waaaay older than that “
 
The union sent out an email the other day that said this week we should "look for our next edition of our "Preparing for the Storm" newsletter." I'm not saying that's bad news but..........
 
The union sent out an email the other day that said this week we should "look for our next edition of our "Preparing for the Storm" newsletter." I'm not saying that's bad news but..........
I think I already have those articles from last time. I need to start hanging down by my old crew room with a sign saying "this is why those senior captains you hate so much didn't leave" and a tip jar.
 
I think I already have those articles from last time. I need to start hanging down by my old crew room with a sign saying "this is why those senior captains you hate so much didn't leave" and a tip jar.
The tip jar should read, "give me money now, you'll be rich 777 captains by the time your 30 right?"

If they don't give me everything in their wallet I start punching nuts.

I really am an old guy now, I hate the young, and want to steal from them to pay for my mistakes. :)
 
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