From Stalking Thread - Sensitive Communication Topic

Autothrust Blue said:
For whatever reason we haven't seen fit to equip airliners with (approved, anyway) secure air-ground communications at all just yet. It's pretty niche content, but whitepapers concerning the security of all the various kinds of ADS and CPDLC have me going "you really didn't think about this at all did you."
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If that idea is true NSA level encryption, I'd say that would be a non-starter for 121 ops. It can be hard enough at times for well trained avionics techs in the military to get it right (not to mention a bunch of people at an airline would have to be rolling around with either secret or top secret clearances depending on their level of access to the source material/code). At least if the idea is for that to be an expected capability at push back. Yes, I know there are probably lots of other methods to encrypt these days that don't involve complex cryptographic daily keys, so in that realm, yes, I think that would be smart.
 
///AMG said:
If that idea is true NSA level encryption, I'd say that would be a non-starter for 121 ops. It can be hard enough at times for well trained avionics techs in the military to get it right (not to mention a bunch of people at an airline would have to be rolling around with either secret or top secret clearances depending on their level of access to the source material/code). At least if the idea is for that to be an expected capability at push back. Yes, I know there are probably lots of other methods to encrypt these days that don't involve complex cryptographic daily keys, so in that realm, yes, I think that would be smart.
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What security clearances? Us dumb civilians can (and SHOULD) use encryption wherever we can, and it’s pretty trivial to do so. We do it nowadays without even noticing.

This website and basically everywhere else in the internet speaks HTTPS, which despite its ubiquity is non-trivial to break, provides an assurance that you are talking to Jetcareers dot com and that the messages between you and there are not altered in transit too.

Really, encryption is all around you nowadays, and it doesn’t require nearly the hardware or software overhead you think. Civil aviation has just never bothered to think about it as even remotely required; this is a failure of engineering imagination.
 
///AMG said:
If that idea is true NSA level encryption, I'd say that would be a non-starter for 121 ops. It can be hard enough at times for well trained avionics techs in the military to get it right (not to mention a bunch of people at an airline would have to be rolling around with either secret or top secret clearances depending on their level of access to the source material/code). At least if the idea is for that to be an expected capability at push back.
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I don't think that implementation or operations would be the challenge. Since airplanes and avionics operate all over the world, it would need to be some type of international standard. Things like that don't move very fast.

Anyway, I think company VPN via satellite would make the most sense. Since all that stuff already exists.
 
A lot of data passing between aircraft and ground already is routinely encrypted (e.g., ONS/LSAP on the MAX, LSAPL on 777/787, FOMAX on new A32xNEOs). Those exchanges are too "packaged" for near-real-time two-way communication, but they would probably work well for exchance of keys. That data transfer is frequently via wireless connection and does not involve technicians & task cards.

Then just mash the PingID/DUO/Authenticator butan on your EFB to sign on.
 
Boris Badenov said:
That guy is one Filipino "nanny" away from a volcano-base. Wasn't he shacking with Kathy Griffin at some point? Also, IMS, a graduate of the "geniuses who shouldn't be flying airplanes" University. Believable Super-Villain, give it time.
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Wait, I originally started a reply to post this.

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drunkenbeagle said:
I don't think that implementation or operations would be the challenge. Since airplanes and avionics operate all over the world, it would need to be some type of international standard. Things like that don't move very fast.

Anyway, I think company VPN via satellite would make the most sense. Since all that stuff already exists.
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Sent from my encrypted 'Secure Boot[1]' Macintosh over encrypted HTTP over encrypted Wifi.

[1] I don't know what the ARM equivalent is, sorry.
 
drunkenbeagle said:
I don't think that implementation or operations would be the challenge. Since airplanes and avionics operate all over the world, it would need to be some type of international standard. Things like that don't move very fast.

Anyway, I think company VPN via satellite would make the most sense. Since all that stuff already exists.
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Yeah 100%, that's what I was getting at. Not secure comms at least in the way that I think of them
 
///AMG said:
Can you imagine spending your life, capturing and converting ACARS messages to text, and parsing through them looking for gold? Like what are the odds on that, 1/10,000,000 per day? Other than just getting lucky.....
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No sekslife, no 330AM alarms to drive 3 hours to Fresno for family court 2.5 hours after getting off work. Either way, roughly the same 1/10,000,000 daily odds that guy gets laid vs finds that forbidden ACARS treasure. Dopamine is all the same. I respect it.

drunkenbeagle said:
Woz would have been way more entertaining. And he's still alive, so it isn't too late. Unfortunately for this plot twist, I don't think he wants to be evil enough to be such a villain. The world could really use some more Wozniak's in positions of influence.
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In the 80s when he was just on the cusp of fame, my mom went on some dates with The Woz (he actually told her he was a pilot LOL) and he got her a Rolex lol. She became disinterested when she discovered he kept a gorilla suit in his entry closet so that when guests brought children he could go...ape chit and chase them around until they freaked out. I think they met at a Halloween party so she thought it was normal that night then she saw it continue to happen lol.

Little did she know, she was going to spawn her own menace to society. Might as well have been rich, too.
 
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Minuteman said:
it probably explains a lot that I can’t understand why that would be a dealbreaker.
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Right? THAT is where she drew the line haha.

There have been countless, countless times that I had the banner up on the aircraft carrier "Mission Accomplished" thinking it was in the bag only to say or do something seemingly benign relative to the conversation and the music stops.

Hell, years ago a girl who had driven over an hour to me, meeting me for the first time after several months of long phone/video calls, left almost immediately when she realized I owned an Xbox, and thus, played video games. A hard line for her. Officer Psycho wanted to give me, an internet stranger at the end of the day, the code to her garage door so I could "realistically surprise" her after work before we've ever met (yeah 2 female cops in the house and she has a gun on her belt, what could go wrong?), but not if I own an Xbox.

This FedEx guy might be exactly what she needs. Might as well stalk the willing. Less thrilling, but less damaging to one's career and no unwanted trauma for the victim. A win-win.
 
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