From Stalking Thread - Sensitive Communication Topic

Hobbyists have taken the state of the art for digitizing VHS tapes to a point where the best method is to read the raw magnetic signal off the tape and digitally clean-up the analog signal into NTSC frames of video. Processing ACARS is a six.

Mid skills?

“Pedestrian”

The “Thes” as the Greeks would classify the effort? :)
 
Can you imagine spending your life, capturing and converting ACARS messages to text, and parsing through them looking for gold? Like what are the odds on that, 1/10,000,000 per day? Other than just getting lucky.....

The level of effort to do it is about the same as picking up ADSB data, which I already do. Because it took me 5 minutes to set up. And I get free Enterprise FlightAware for doing it. And I can see and get alerts for whatever FilghtAware is blocking. (And so can you, as I also upload to adsb exchange, that doesn't block anything).
 
The level of effort to do it is about the same as picking up ADSB data, which I already do. Because it took me 5 minutes to set up. And I get free Enterprise FlightAware for doing it. And I can see and get alerts for whatever FilghtAware is blocking. (And so can you, as I also upload to adsb exchange, that doesn't block anything).

Fair enough, but even moreso than scanning ATC comms or whatever else, it seems like it would be a real needle-in-the-haystack adventure. How many "CLOSEOUT ACK" messages do you need to parse through just to get to anything even remotely out of the ordinary?
 
The level of effort to do it is about the same as picking up ADSB data, which I already do. Because it took me 5 minutes to set up. And I get free Enterprise FlightAware for doing it. And I can see and get alerts for whatever FilghtAware is blocking. (And so can you, as I also upload to adsb exchange, that doesn't block anything).

"Lord Elon, I have found the leak!"

"Do not fail me again, Admiral Badenov"
 
Fair enough, but even moreso than scanning ATC comms or whatever else, it seems like it would be a real needle-in-the-haystack adventure. How many "CLOSEOUT ACK" messages do you need to parse through just to get to anything even remotely out of the ordinary?
I mean if you can log station ID and tail number it would be fairly easy to sift through a database if you already have a lead on an incident
 
Interesting. Did not know the public would have that level of fidelity while eavesdropping

The data stream is so small, you would just store all of it indefinitely and search it. There probably are some legitimate or at least potentially useful ways this data could be used. Also, eavesdropping wouldn't be the word I would use to describe communications that a broadcast entirely in the clear with station identifiers. There was never any expectation it would be private.
 
All I have to ask if any of our more learned people knew about the "Thes" in Greek culture? :)
 
The data stream is so small, you would just store all of it indefinitely and search it. There probably are some legitimate or at least potentially useful ways this data could be used. Also, eavesdropping wouldn't be the word I would use to describe communications that a broadcast entirely in the clear with station identifiers. There was never any expectation it would be private.

ok eavesdropper.....

:)
 
The data stream is so small, you would just store all of it indefinitely and search it. There probably are some legitimate or at least potentially useful ways this data could be used. Also, eavesdropping wouldn't be the word I would use to describe communications that a broadcast entirely in the clear with station identifiers. There was never any expectation it would be private.

ok eavesdropper.....

:)

*hand to side of mouth*
Wait until we tell them about the die hard satcom nerds that are decoding unencrypted Inmarsat and Iridium voice traffic… :)

At least that takes some serious dedication, both getting the equipment and having the know how to point it at the satellite you want.

Satcom is definitely more secure, but the most secure would be cell phones / WiFi because those have encryption built in.
 
*hand to side of mouth*
Wait until we tell them about the die hard satcom nerds that are decoding unencrypted Inmarsat and Iridium voice traffic… :)

At least that takes some serious dedication, both getting the equipment and having the know how to point it at the satellite you want.

Satcom is definitely more secure, but the most secure would be cell phones / WiFi because those have encryption built in.
For whatever reason we haven't seen fit to equip airliners with (approved, anyway) secure air-ground communications at all just yet. It's pretty niche content, but whitepapers concerning the security of all the various kinds of ADS and CPDLC have me going "you really didn't think about this at all did you."
 
Satcom is definitely more secure, but the most secure would be cell phones / WiFi because those have encryption built in.
When the iPhone got WiFi calling in 2015ish we just started using that in the airplane if we need to call someone. I preferred that to the satphone.
 
Steve Jobs would have made so much better an arch volcano-base-dwelling villain than stupid Musk. We are in one of the lesser, dumb alternate timelines. RIP.

Woz would have been way more entertaining. And he's still alive, so it isn't too late. Unfortunately for this plot twist, I don't think he wants to be evil enough to be such a villain. The world could really use some more Wozniak's in positions of influence.
 
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