Freight dog with a four day

Frieght dog with a four day


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Oh come on. It can't be all that bad. You post like 15 times a day, throughout the day. When do you have time to fly?

You don't know much about my job do you.

We don't fly much. My show time in the morning is between 5 and 6am. Which means I get up between 3 and 4 "AM". I have to have the plane ready to fly 70 minutes before the scheduled departure. Contrary to belief FedEx is rarely on time. Not their fault (Weather, ATC delay, Maintenance) but I spend a LOT of time waiting around in the morning for my plane to be loaded. Lots and LOTS of waiting around which gives me plenty of posting time on JC. We've waited as much as 5 hours in the morning (peak xmas) for the plane to be loaded. So either you sit on the ramp or at some places the van or if we have an office and wait around BSing with the other pilots for your flight to be called.

I am required to supervise the load for obvious reasons. Which means I have to sit at the airplane while they load. Usually in the PWN that means either in the rain, snow or in below freezing temps. I had a couple of mornings last month below zero while I waited out on the ramp for over an hour as the rampers loaded the airplane.

This can take some mornings from show time to departure 4 to 5 hours. Once I get to the outstation where I drop off the cargo I get to sit "most times" usually in a hotel. A lot of routes have two or more stops so you get a couple of hours in between flights. Nearly all our routes are to small towns in BFE. Hell I leave a city that is considered BFE and head to a place even further BFE. So you can imagine there ain't much to do in these smaller towns.

Then I show back up at 3-4 in the afternoon for departure and again wait around for the rampers to load the airplane. I get back between 5:30 and 6:30 "PM".

So I have usually a over 12 hour day, where I am working or "on call" call the entire time. My time isn't mine to do with as I please. It's a full 12+ hour day away from home. Our schedule is 6 days a week although on average we only fly 5 days a week. That leaves me with a 30-45 minute drive home (NLT 7:30PM) with about an hour or two max to screw around before I need to be in bed to get a minimum of 6 hours sleep and start the whole exercise again the next day.

It's an easy job but it isn't a vacation. I am on the clock that entire time. But my actual flight time is usually only 2-3 hours a day. Most of that time is sitting around the airplane (meaning actually AT the airplane) waiting on cargo.

5-6 days a week. So getting a 4 day off is a HUGE DEAL! Yeah it sounds like a utterly miserable job. But I am SPIFR. I'm am lord commander in my aircraft. No annoying pax to deal with. No Captain or FO trying to kill me or holding his/her hands over the flap lever. I wear cargo pants and combat boots to work most days. And can play video games on my laptop in between flights (hell I watched an entire movie 2 months ago waiting on the load). I make 2x as much as the average regional pilot and my time (for the most part) counts the same when I go apply to Southwest to be a "real" commercial pilot ;) (although admittedly with only 2-3 hours a day that poor broke regional pilot is going to get to Southwest minimums before I do) :bang:
 
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@Derg can attest to how much fun japan is. I just got back for a week there and in South Korea last week. Wish I was still there.
 
Hell man, some days the Rampers at PDX FedEx remind me of Bumfights. Ah....tier Zero for the win!

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You mean the rampers who actually work for FedEx? Those guys who load FedEx's Caravan, in FedEx uniforms at the PDX ramp? Out in front of the big building that says FedEx on it?

I've never once said I work for FedEx. So what's the joke you think I missed? Or is this just your usual suffering from the Dunning–Kruger effect.
 
You don't know much about my job do you.

We don't fly much. My show time in the morning is between 5 and 6am. Which means I get up between 3 and 4 "AM". I have to have the plane ready to fly 70 minutes before the scheduled departure. Contrary to belief FedEx is rarely on time. Not their fault (Weather, ATC delay, Maintenance) but I spend a LOT of time waiting around in the morning for my plane to be loaded. Lots and LOTS of waiting around which gives me plenty of posting time on JC. We've waited as much as 5 hours in the morning (peak xmas) for the plane to be loaded. So either you sit on the ramp or at some places the van or if we have an office and wait around BSing with the other pilots for your flight to be called.

I am required to supervise the load for obvious reasons. Which means I have to sit at the airplane while they load. Usually in the PWN that means either in the rain, snow or in below freezing temps. I had a couple of mornings last month below zero while I waited out on the ramp for over an hour as the rampers loaded the airplane.

This can take some mornings from show time to departure 4 to 5 hours. Once I get to the outstation where I drop off the cargo I get to sit "most times" usually in a hotel. A lot of routes have two or more stops so you get a couple of hours in between flights. Nearly all our routes are to small towns in BFE. Hell I leave a city that is considered BFE and head to a place even further BFE. So you can imagine there ain't much to do in these smaller towns.

Then I show back up at 3-4 in the afternoon for departure and again wait around for the rampers to load the airplane. I get back between 5:30 and 6:30 "PM".

So I have usually a over 12 hour day, where I am working or "on call" call the entire time. My time isn't mine to do with as I please. It's a full 12+ hour day away from home. Our schedule is 6 days a week although on average we only fly 5 days a week. That leaves me with a 30-45 minute drive home (NLT 7:30PM) with about an hour or two max to screw around before I need to be in bed to get a minimum of 6 hours sleep and start the whole exercise again the next day.

It's an easy job but it isn't a vacation. I am on the clock that entire time. But my actual flight time is usually only 2-3 hours a day. Most of that time is sitting around the airplane (meaning actually AT the airplane) waiting on cargo.

5-6 days a week. So getting a 4 day off is a HUGE DEAL! Yeah it sounds like a utterly miserable job. But I am SPIFR. I'm am lord commander in my aircraft. No annoying pax to deal with. No Captain or FO trying to kill me or holding his/her hands over the flap lever. I wear cargo pants and combat boots to work most days. And can play video games on my laptop in between flights (hell I watched an entire movie 2 months ago waiting on the load). I make 2x as much as the average regional pilot and my time (for the most part) counts the same when I go apply to Southwest to be a "real" commercial pilot ;) (although admittedly with only 2-3 hours a day that poor broke regional pilot is going to get to Southwest minimums before I do) :bang:

So you make $150,000 or more a year? I don’t think you could pay me enough to do that schedule.
 
just curious if the Tie-fighter Pilots keep their hotel points or do they go to Emperor Palpatine?
oh and I would deff go to vegas.
 
So you make $150,000 or more a year? I don’t think you could pay me enough to do that schedule.

Yeah the schedule can suck. Pay starts at roughly $52,500 a year. We get per dium per day as well. Supposedly there is a raise coming I've heard as much as an extra 1000 a month but it was promised last Oct/Nov that would be in place by Jan. Nothing but crickets since. My view it's better than a regional though.

just curious if the Tie-fighter Pilots keep their hotel points or do they go to Emperor Palpatine?
oh and I would deff go to vegas.

Nope we get to keep the points. I'll likely never pay for a hotel for the rest of my life. I'd have gone to Vegas but the tribe spoke overwhelmingly and I went with Capt. Sweatpants and thus I never left apartment. Probably for the best. I am a terrible poker player.
 
Yeah the schedule can suck. Pay starts at roughly $52,500 a year. We get per dium per day as well. Supposedly there is a raise coming I've heard as much as an extra 1000 a month but it was promised last Oct/Nov that would be in place by Jan. Nothing but crickets since. My view it's better than a regional though.

Hey as long as you’re happy that’s all that matters, but you can’t say you make 2x the average regional pilot as that’s completely false. And to be honest, almost any regional would be better than that schedule and pay.
 
Hey as long as you’re happy that’s all that matters, but you can’t say you make 2x the average regional pilot as that’s completely false. And to be honest, almost any regional would be better than that schedule and pay.

With Per Diem and other pay riders first year pay works out to something along the lines of 60-65 a year. Most of the regionals (without including bonuses) pay around 30K. I just got a promotion that should put me up around 80-90K.
 
With Per Diem and other pay riders first year pay works out to something along the lines of 60-65 a year. Most of the regionals (without including bonuses) pay around 30K. I just got a promotion that should put me up around 80-90K.
Maybe 1 or 2 still pay that. Most are 50k+ first year now, some are even 70k+ with bonuses.
 
Maybe 1 or 2 still pay that. Most are 50k+ first year now, some are even 70k+ with bonuses.
*includes per diem, 401k match, health insurance premium contribution, commuter hotels, company-provided bottled water and coffee, and credit card rewards earned purchasing airport meals.
*2 year contract required for hiring bonus
*2nd year pay $40k
 
*includes per diem, 401k match, health insurance premium contribution, commuter hotels, company-provided bottled water and coffee, and credit card rewards earned purchasing airport meals.
*2 year contract required for hiring bonus
*2nd year pay $40k

Haha excellent. And true.
 
Wow, I feel like I walked into a thread on masochism. I think you guys need to get out from under your rock and see what’s going on in the industry. Or just keep working your ass off for half the pay and days off.
 
Maybe 1 or 2 still pay that. Most are 50k+ first year now, some are even 70k+ with bonuses.

Yeah, only 1st year and that's including the bonuses and heath insurance, and hotels and all the other crap they use to inflate the first year pay claims. 2nd year its back to ramen noodles if you are lucky. Most guys I know @JDean3204 @ASpilot2be are bringing in roughly 2K maybe a little over a month. Maybe they see 2,200. Thats before they take out the cost of health insurance and union dues.
 
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