Former Alaska Airlines pilot who tried to shut down engines in-flight shares his story
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DPApilot
GUYSH! GUYSH! GUYSH!
I didn’t realize it was already out. I may have to check it out.
SeanD
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It
Its really good.
BEEF SUPREME
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The issue is someone who has underlying and untreated mental illness issues using dissociative drugs like mushrooms. The episode with Joe was the perfect storm:
He had an underlying mental health issue.
He had the perception that he would lose his job if he sought out help.
He never got any kind of legitimate treatment from what sounds like a growing issue.
He sought out help from friends at a gathering that likely reminded him of his friend who passed away.
Some one at that gathering gave him mushrooms.
Even worse everyone at that gathering let him get on the jumpseat of an airliner.
There is a lot of research about drugs like mushrooms causing effects similar to what it sounds like Joe experienced.
Psychedelic and Dissociative Drugs | National Institute on Drug Abuse
Learn more about NIDA’s research on the health effects and therapeutic potential of psychedelic and dissociative drugs.
Copy pasta because I know no one will try and learn how using mushrooms one time can set off a mental health episode in vulnerable people.
“While short-term positive and negative mood changes are common with psychedelic and dissociative drugs, more research is needed to better understand the long-term effects these substances may have on mental health.
There is some evidence that psychedelic drugs might bring about or trigger schizophrenia-like illness in people with predisposing factors, but little evidence that they cause long-term psychiatric problems for most people. In a 1996 study where people with pre-existing psychoses were given LSD, three of 65 participants experienced persistent worsening of their psychiatric symptoms lasting 3-8 months.51”
Bob Ridpath
Pit Bull love
This is why I just stay home with my dogs
Autothrust Blue
“If you jump on my shift, that’s just rude, man.”
Defendants in the federal system, evidently, have a right to be arraigned within 30 days. They've been kicking the arraignment down the road (by motion of the defendant and without objection from the United States Attorney assigned to the case) since Mr. Emerson's pre-trial release in December of 2023.
(source: the docket via PACER)
ahw01
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Finish him!
Autothrust Blue
“If you jump on my shift, that’s just rude, man.”
I mean, I bet he gets a jail sentence of some sort from the Feds, but I don't think it'll be anywhere near as high as people expect (or even demand, for the chattering classes), for a bunch of reasons, some of them really quite good.
I took a look at Multnomah County just now and like I thought would happen the attempted murder counts are gone, and it's just a bunch of counts of recklessly endangering another person (misdemeanor) and a single count of the Oregonian offense of endangering an aircraft in the first degree (C felony). C Felonies in Oregon carry a maximum sentence of five years and $125k in fines.
Skåning
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Any word on passengers suing for distress? I hope he and his family don’t get crushed by civil suits.
tcco94
Future GTA VI Pilot
That dude is wildly too sensitive lol
Autothrust Blue
“If you jump on my shift, that’s just rude, man.”
Bay Area pilot's in-flight incident prompts lawsuit against Alaska Airlines
The case of an off-duty Bay Area pilot charged with attempted murder after an in-flight incident now has spurred a class-action lawsuit against his employer, Alaska Airlines.
www.nbcbayarea.com
Various and sundry outfits' pilot selection departments: cold sweat
Autothrust Blue
“If you jump on my shift, that’s just rude, man.”
Yeah I don't think you actually can do (with any real accuracy) what the Plaintiffs want. Fair point.
SeanD
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It doesn't sound like the pax had any idea what was really going on.
tcco94
Future GTA VI Pilot
That’s probably a good thing really. No scenario should they be made aware what happened imo. Just this unruly passenger needs to be restrained and get on the ground.
I imagine he was in uniform?
BEEF SUPREME
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I doubt it. He was traveling on what sounds like a personal trip. Also, I think the flight originated out of PAE.
The doc has body cam video of his arrest. He was in his “incognito uniform” from the looks of it (i.e. Northface jacket and lanyard).
BEEF SUPREME
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Yeah you've got to run the gauntlet of not being in uniform and making sure you're looking professional when all you want to do is go camping with friends.
