Fly runway heading question

[z987k]

There are many airports without a SID or an ODP. If the airport has a published instrument approach but no departure procedure, it meets diverse departure criteria and you will not hit anything in any direction given standard climb rates and threshhold crossing height. Your clearance will include a heading or direct-to fix.

Here's a previous thread about it: http://forums.jetcareers.com/threads/departing-an-airport-ifr-without-an-sid-or-odp.99605/page-2

Ah yes, I forget about stuff like that. I haven't flown anywhere that flat in years.

 

[RRPower]

Line up, sync the heading bug (it should already be close--think Comair) and fly that.


Sent from Seat 3D

You do not sync the heading bug. Big no no. That IS what comair did and it cost them their lives. You should set the heading and then if your DG is a FEW degrees off then adjust it. If it is way off then reassess.

 

[Autothrust Blue]

You do not sync the heading bug. Big no no. That IS what comair did and it cost them their lives. You should set the heading and then if your DG is a FEW degrees off then adjust it. If it is way off then reassess.

That's what I mean to say; my DGs are never spot on (251 degrees versus 249). Twiddle, mash, sync, pick your terminology. "Runway heading checks" or "Runway (__) aligned" or whatever it is you do...

If, however, you're looking at a bugged heading of 210, and the runway you're on is heading 251, you have a problem.

 

[TripSix]

The couple examples earlier in the thread of a controller being confused about heading vs. track are really an embarrassment. If you are operating under IFR, "fly runway heading" means you do not apply wind correction, period.

Yeah, I agree. Seems to be a lot of confusion, hence my follow up about flying the numbered runway heading (320) vs the actual runway heading (325).

When I've said "fly runway heading," I meant just that: the charts have an actual runway heading on them, and that's what I want you to fly. No crabs, no bugs, no whatever. Heading vs track is my issue, and I'm addressing it by issuing the actual heading I need to achieve it.

Reading that a controller chomped on a pilot because of winds IS embarrassing. Jesus, do your damn job - ya know?