Flight times to put on a resume?

Timbuff10

Timbuff10

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FLIGHT TIMES


Total Time:XXX Pilot In Command:XXX
Single-Engine:XXX Dual Given:XXX
Multi-Engine:XXX Cross Country:XXX
Turbine:XXX Night:XXX
Complex:XXX Actual Instrument:XXX
FTD:XXX Simulated Instrument:XXX
Glass Cockpit:XXX


Is this too many types of time to include? Overkill at all? Did I forget anything or what should I drop?

Any times more particular to a CFI resume or a airline resume?
 
I don't think you need FTD time listed either. If it's in your log then talk about it at an interview if questioned...
 
I think the times for a resume for a CFI job are different to the times for a Freight Dog job are different for an airline job.

For example one poster said the complex time was not needed, but for a CFI job I disagree. If the organization has a complex and wants you to do checkouts etc. they may be interested in your complex time. On the other hand an airline isn't likely interested in your complex time, they'll train you in putting the gear up and down pretty exhaustively.

Your resume is just a screening device, it won't get you hired, but it will get you an interview. So think about what the person doing the hiring at the job you're applying for is likely screening for and make sure that data is in there. Don't leave data out - when I was screening resumes and I wanted to know complex time, if it wasn't on the resume it went in the "do not call" pile. Those candidates may have been perfect, but guess what, CFI's are easy to find, so if I screened out a few geniuses it didn't do me any harm, but it didn't help the hopeful candidate much either.
 
Yeah it just seems cluttered on my resume now.

I want to keep the Glass Cockpit time since I just went over a 100 hours of that. Maybe the guy looking at resumes thinks it is cool? I don't know, I thought it kinda stands out.

So, should I drop the FTD time or the Complex time?
 
Timbuff10 said:
Yeah it just seems cluttered on my resume now.

I want to keep the Glass Cockpit time since I just went over a 100 hours of that. Maybe the guy looking at resumes thinks it is cool? I don't know, I thought it kinda stands out.

So, should I drop the FTD time or the Complex time?
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If you told us what kind of job you're looking for I missed it, but if it's a CFI job I'd leave them. It looks messy as presented here, but I'd assume split into 2 columns reasonably formatted it'd look OK. It's probably true to say the fewer qualifications you have the more you need to highlight the ones you have. So if you have 300 hours and a green CFI you want to make the time you have look as useful as possible. If you have 3000 hours and an ATP it's sort of assumed you have some complex time (at least I'd assume it, and you know what happens when you assume).

I posted before on why the complex time is good. The FTD time is good you'd probably have been higher up my call list because if you have FTD time you presumably have some idea how to use it as a teaching tool even if it's just been from the other side. Glass cockpit the same, lots of schools seem to have them these days so at least I wouldn't have to teach you what an airspeed tape is. It won't get you the job, but it might help get you the interview. Saving things to talk about on the interview is a fine strategy *IF* you get the interview, I'd rather get the interview and have to find something else to talk about.
 
As far as Glass Cockpit time, do any of you guys (CFIs) keep a seperate column in your logbook to keep track of it? How important is glass time to the regionals?
 
These guys are correct...tailor it to the job.

However I think you could drop the actual and simulated instrument and just put Instrument. FTD you can drop, and glass cockpit you could drop...unless your applying for a place that does instruction in those airplanes I guess.

When I was applying for 135 freight jobs I made sure I had my time lined out so that it showed I met all 135req's.

Now I've cut it down to

TT
PIC
MULTI
INST
TURBINE
JET

Flight instructing maybe
TT
DUAL GIVEN
MULTI
HIPO/COMPLEX
NIGHT
INS

135 looked something like
TT
MULTI
HIPO/COMPLEX
INS
NIGHT
X-country
PIC

again the idea is tailor it to the job and highlight the areas that make you look good.

Applying for a CFI gig at a place with no glass cockpit aircraft...i probably wouldn't make it look like I've only instructed in glass cockpit aircraft. etc..
 
UND_Flyer said:
As far as Glass Cockpit time, do any of you guys (CFIs) keep a seperate column in your logbook to keep track of it? How important is glass time to the regionals?
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Hopefully not at all. The way things are lining up for me, and the path that I want to take, the forst glass thime I get may be in a 737.

My log book has 0 glass time, and with the aircraft and jobs available to me that wont change for a very long time
 
Take off the complex, ftd, glass time, and combine the 2 instrument times into one.

If they want anything extra or seperated they will ask for it in your interview paperwork.

Most regionals are only concerned with PIC, Night, Multi PIC, INST., instruction time and total time, nobody has ever asked me about anything else.
 
Thanks guys, I just copied and pasted the columns from my resume in a word doc and for some reason the format on the board here made it all clumped together. I have it as two organized columns on my real resume.

I think I have it all set and the way I want it now.

As for the "Glass" time, I have been keeping track of it and made a seperate column in my logbook for it and just listed it as "glass".

After looking at the definition of what a TAA is, it seems kind of vague to me.

Technically Advanced Aircraft (TAA) – A general aviation aircraft that combines some or all of the following design features: advanced cockpit automation system (moving map GPS/glass cockpit) for IFR/VFR flight operations, automated engine and systems management, and integrated auto flight/autopilot systems.

The NavII package Cessna has an MFD in it so if you want to get technical you could list that as a TAA. Also some of the old GPSs out there have a moving map page in it. I mean it is half the size of a dollar bill but you could argue that they are still displays with multiple functions.
 
Regionals couldn't care less about having glass cockpit time. Likewise for the CRJ training rip-offs that ATP and the like offer.
 
Ralgha said:
Regionals couldn't care less about having glass cockpit time. Likewise for the CRJ training rip-offs that ATP and the like offer.
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Ii can't say if you are right or wrong about the glass thing, but I am here to tell you that the CRJ training that ATP sells definetly helps people get hired.

Not saying it isn't a rip off but it totally works if you are looking to just get to a regional.
 
Tim

You might want to try googling "pilot resumes" or something similar to get an idea of what some of the professional resume writers are using. I did that and found a few examples of times, organization and all that stuff. Otherwise I agree with everyone else, tailor it to target your future employer. But at the same time I had just about the same things you listed on my resume as well and it seemed to have worked. Just remember to keep it organized if you do put down all those times. If you want a copy of my resume just let me know and i'll send it your way.
 
Timbuff10 said:
Ii can't say if you are right or wrong about the glass thing, but I am here to tell you that the CRJ training that ATP sells definetly helps people get hired.

Not saying it isn't a rip off but it totally works if you are looking to just get to a regional.
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If it was worth the money paid for it, then it would be extremely hard to get a job without it. It's not. No problem at all to get a job without having done a course like that.
 
Timbuff10 said:
Not saying it isn't a rip off but it totally works if you are looking to just get to a regional.
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IMO you shouldn't have to buy qualifications to get a job. If you want to pay a few grand to work for a regional have at it - but you'll feel pretty ripped off when you get to one.
 
Ralgha said:
If it was worth the money paid for it, then it would be extremely hard to get a job without it. It's not. No problem at all to get a job without having done a course like that.
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I agree with you here but you first said:
Regionals couldn't care less about having glass cockpit time. Likewise for the CRJ training rip-offs that ATP and the like offer.
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XJET, AE, PSA, and Pinnacle hire pilots with below published minimums if they go through ATPs CRJ program. However much you disagree with the idea of paying for training you'll get anyway at an airline, it works at ATP.
 
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