Flight times to put on a resume?

GaTechKid said:
XJET, AE, PSA, and Pinnacle hire pilots with below published minimums if they go through ATPs CRJ program. However much you disagree with the idea of paying for training you'll get anyway at an airline, it works at ATP.
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You tell 'em Billy....I mean Kyle. :)

I agree with everyone who says that you tailor the resume to the type of pilot job you're applying for.

Looking to make a move already, Tim? Nice!

Neil
 
As far as TAA planes, technically a Cessna with a Garmin 430 and an AP is one. Skymates has a 172N with a 430 and an AP, so it's a TAA, like it or not. :)

I think glass time is starting to become a bit more eyebrow raising at the regional level. The reason being (and I saw this myself in training) those that have it handle the training on glass cockpit planes MUCH better. Those of us with Garmin 1000 time had a bit of an edge over the trainees that didn't have it. Do I think it should be a requirement or a min lowering stat? Not at all.
 
Well, we don't have AP's, but we do have 430's in our 152's. I must admit it is funny when we call approach and say that we're a "Cessna 152 slant Golf". How's that for a TAA? LOL!

Neil
 
Ralgha said:
If it was worth the money paid for it, then it would be extremely hard to get a job without it. It's not. No problem at all to get a job without having done a course like that.
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What I am saying is for a guy with 300-600 hrs it is probably impossible to get a regional job. That same guy drops a load of cash on the ATP RJ course and he is instantly getting interviews. It does seperate people for sure.

I think it is better to just continue what you are doing and keep getting flight time. Once you get up to 800-1200 you are just as marketable except you have more money in your pocket and you probably don't feel as dirty as the guy who spent thousands on the RJ thing that you get for free when you get to training.
 
Timbuff10 said:
What I am saying is for a guy with 300-600 hrs it is probably impossible to get a regional job. That same guy drops a load of cash on the ATP RJ course and he is instantly getting interviews. It does seperate people for sure.

I think it is better to just continue what you are doing and keep getting flight time. Once you get up to 800-1200 you are just as marketable except you have more money in your pocket and you probably don't feel as dirty as the guy who spent thousands on the RJ thing that you get for free when you get to training.
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That was me late last year. I was at 700-800 hours being told "Sorry, you don't meet our mins" KNOWING people with less time than I had were being hired at those airlines. It all worked out, and I can actually afford to pay my mortgage now.....
 
kellwolf said:
That was me late last year. I was at 700-800 hours being told "Sorry, you don't meet our mins" KNOWING people with less time than I had were being hired at those airlines. It all worked out, and I can actually afford to pay my mortgage now.....
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I got that one the other day, kinda frustrating.
 
Yo Tim,
where are you sending your resumes?
I would tone down the times a little bit.
maybe remove complex.
Keep it concise, precise and to the point.
adios
 
Shinerbock said:
Yo Tim,
where are you sending your resumes?
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Tonyw will probably get one... Will try at some flight schools in the DC area that don't have a fleet of deathtraps.

Thinking of Colgan but not sure about their bases, I would try for sure if I knew I could get the Saab and a Manassas base. Air Wisc would be nice but don't think they would touch me at just under 700hrs.

Perhaps if I put my address in bold for the Air Wisc application they would hire me? I could walk to work if I got DCA as a base.
 
Timbuff10 said:
Tonyw will probably get one... Will try at some flight schools in the DC area that don't have a fleet of deathtraps.
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I'll be happy to pass those along to anyone you want, Tim! GAI has a pretty big flight school and so does FDK. FDK may be a bit of a drive though. You also may want to check out Freeway and HEF.
 
Yeah, that's the thing though, I don't want to be the guy going into an interview with stipulations on aircraft type... Especially when the one I would prefer would be the one that everyone wants because it is bigger and you don't have to worry about wetting yourself in it. Personally, I think I would prefer the Beech if it were just an a/c choice.
 
kellwolf said:
That was me late last year. I was at 700-800 hours being told "Sorry, you don't meet our mins" KNOWING people with less time than I had were being hired at those airlines. It all worked out, and I can actually afford to pay my mortgage now.....
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Except - and I'm not saying this is a good thing - the person who paid to go ahead of you is now senior to you and when (not if, and this is not personal, the airline pilot who hasn't been furloughed is a rare bird indeed) the furloughs come they MAY get to keep their job while you don't.

If seniority is everything then being "more" senior has some value - so the question really is how MUCH value.
 
I still see it as a short cut. Why not say "Sorry, Bob. We have to downsize. Jim offered to pay $40K to keep his job, but since you have more experience and we feel you'll be okay, we're gonna let you go." Next thing you know, everyone is downsizing and all the "Jims" have the jobs and there's no where left for the "Bobs" to go unless they pony up cash.
 
kellwolf said:
As far as TAA planes, technically a Cessna with a Garmin 430 and an AP is one. Skymates has a 172N with a 430 and an AP, so it's a TAA, like it or not.
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Sorry guys...if I saw a resume that listed TAA time, I would laugh and pass it around the office. It sounds like an acronym that one of the pilot factories came up. It's like saying "well....technically it is an advanced aircraft." Don't list any GA time in your flight times as "Glass". List G1000 under experience/classes or other training received. Such as CRJ or altitude chamber training. There is a big difference in being technically advanced and technologically advanced. I would not consider them as TAAircraft. They may have advanced instruments, but they are not advanced aircraft.

As far as other time to list:
Do tailor your flight times for the job you are seeking.
Do not combine hood time and actual. Most people are looking for "actual" instrument in that column.
Be careful listing EFIS time (probably a better way to list it than TAA), if the prospective employer operates steam gage equipped airplanes he will probably not pick you.
 
NJA_Capt said:
Sorry guys...if I saw a resume that listed TAA time, I would laugh and pass it around the office. It sounds like an acronym that one of the pilot factories came up. It's like saying "well....technically it is an advanced aircraft." Don't list any GA time in your flight times as "Glass". List G1000 under experience/classes or other training received. Such as CRJ or altitude chamber training. There is a big difference in being technically advanced and technologically advanced. I would not consider them as TAAircraft. They may have advanced instruments, but they are not advanced aircraft.
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While I agree with the symantics of technical vs technological, it was the FAA that did the naming. Although, I'm sure ATP, JetU, etc will take full advantage of it....
 
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