I asked my BFR instructor this question and both of us came to the same conclusion that it's possible, but probably not practical.
A little background:
Flying the PHX Class B transition over the approach ends is one of my favorite routes for both saving time going around the airspace and the view you get of the city along with the joy of having an eye out looking at you. I usually request Flight Following while I'm in the transition when things have quieted down on the radio. If I request it while I request the transition, usually PHX APP either forgets or is too busy to get me a Flight Following Squawk and not just a Squawk for the transition. I usually figure it out if I wasn't given a Squawk starting with a '4'.
Original Goal:
I'm all about saving time on the radio, and I think I'm pretty to the point when I start talking. My original question is about being able to ask for flight following from Ground Control like an IFR pilot would get clearance for. For example going Payson from Chandler and calling up PHX APP with just saying "...With you 3,500 at Firebird" after crossing the Snooty Stellar Airport in between.
Personal Conclusion:
That you can do it, but due to a Class G airport in between, might be a little weird. Plus it is an unusual request and Ground Control may not really want to do it. I don't see why you couldn't do it, it's similar to an IFR clearance, just not an IFR flight.
Really, the goal would be to cut down on time dealing with PHX APP on the radio giving less chance to interfere with Air Carrier operations.
Thoughts? Good/Bad Idea?
A little background:
Flying the PHX Class B transition over the approach ends is one of my favorite routes for both saving time going around the airspace and the view you get of the city along with the joy of having an eye out looking at you. I usually request Flight Following while I'm in the transition when things have quieted down on the radio. If I request it while I request the transition, usually PHX APP either forgets or is too busy to get me a Flight Following Squawk and not just a Squawk for the transition. I usually figure it out if I wasn't given a Squawk starting with a '4'.
Original Goal:
I'm all about saving time on the radio, and I think I'm pretty to the point when I start talking. My original question is about being able to ask for flight following from Ground Control like an IFR pilot would get clearance for. For example going Payson from Chandler and calling up PHX APP with just saying "...With you 3,500 at Firebird" after crossing the Snooty Stellar Airport in between.
Personal Conclusion:
That you can do it, but due to a Class G airport in between, might be a little weird. Plus it is an unusual request and Ground Control may not really want to do it. I don't see why you couldn't do it, it's similar to an IFR clearance, just not an IFR flight.
Really, the goal would be to cut down on time dealing with PHX APP on the radio giving less chance to interfere with Air Carrier operations.
Thoughts? Good/Bad Idea?