Flight Attendant Rant.

It might. The younger ones are under no illusions as to their place in management's eyes. If it does pass, it'll be bacause of them, not the "other" ones.
 
Oh, it won't unless the newer FA's mobilize. The old guard, no way.

Free manicures in the FA lounge, a popcorn machine and a remodeling job that makes the lounge look like a Copenhagen furniture store, it won't pass.

In the meantime, we've got pilots flying in civilian clothes in JFK because the roof collapsed and there's a potential asbestos contamination! :)

"I swear! My hat was in the commuter room!"
 
WC,

After long exposure to LAX based F/As, it becomes obvious what is real and what is "augmented" on women.

Heck, more than one have come to the flight deck for opinions on their "new" look.
 
Doug Taylor said:
But for the average flying domestic Joe, is it not a little fun and a little sassy?

I've only seen it domestic. And not playing internationally yet...Anyway it'd be false advertising.

My question: What would you change?
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I thought it was playful finger wagging.

I mean, after all, if you're gonna tell a chronic smoker that they can't get their fix for who knows how many hours, sweetening the blow a bit with a little feminine sass would make me snicker inspite of it all.

Of course, it DID kinda remind me of that "Nah ah ah... noooo touching" line I've heard before.

Gee, where did I hear that line? :rolleyes:
 
WildCougar said:
AHA! So she WASN'T an old cat-rancher -- LOL! But by some standards, "40's" is old, I guess.
As a woman (and a FA), I'm not offended by the video. However, while I don't find it overt, there is a little bit of sexual undercurrent in it. Kudos to everyone involved for straddling that fine line. My only problem with it is--where are the hot men to "entertain" the women pax and make them pay attention? (right, Charlie?) :D
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Haven't you heard?

Universal appeal these days.. ya know?

If you must have hot men, they keep them in the cockpit, where I... uh I mean they use their best "smooth jazz" voice over the PA system to induce a relaxing calm on the passengers. Special voice training is issued to ensure that the female passengers have a hard time sitting without squirming.

:rolleyes:
 
Firebird2XC said:
Haven't you heard?

Universal appeal these days.. ya know?

If you must have hot men, they keep them in the cockpit, where I... uh I mean they use their best "smooth jazz" voice over the PA system to induce a relaxing calm on the passengers. Special voice training is issued to ensure that the female passengers have a hard time sitting without squirming.

:rolleyes:
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Oh, honey, it's not just the female pax that have a hard time sitting without squirmiing listening to some of your voices from the cockpit! :crazy: :D
 
Doug Taylor said:
She certainly wasn't old at all, perhaps in her early to mid 40's?

I told the story during the bus ride to the hotel this morning and I got a lot more information.

Apparently the big "huff" is that the flight attendant is a former "Song Girl" and part of a new supervisors team that's trying to bury the "old, stuffy southern airline" image and drive it more towards a fun, internationally-oriented carrier. Some of the FA's that are resisting this shift have chosen the new supervisory team and ESPECIALLY the new safety demo as the symbols (targets?) of change and don't like it.

Then some idle chat about how the "original" FA's don't like the former "song" FA's because of hiring standards, RDQ, etc. Naturally, this is from a former "song" FA.

Of course, this is all hotel crew bus gossip.

Aye.
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Last week in Mumbai I had an interesting conversation on the crew van in to the hotel with a mid-seniority 40-ish flight attendant. It went something like this (I'll try to get the quotes as exact as I can possibly remember; and no I'm not making this up...):


Her: "Do the pilots get free internet at the hotel?"

Me: "No, we have to pay, I think it's about $15 per 24 hours..."

Her: "Good!"

Me: (turning to look directly at her) "Why did you say 'good'?"

Her: "Well, you know, you'd be getting something we didn't..."

Me: "And, why is that a bad thing?"

Her: "Well, I'm sure you pilots would be screaming about it or down at the front desk demanding the same thing if we got it..."

Me: "Yes, I'm sure we'd want the same perk as you, but I'm curious why you said 'Good!' that we didn't get it. Do you not want other employees to do well, or is it an anti-pilot thing?"

Her: "What do you mean?"

Me: "Well, if I found out that you got free internet and I didn't I might try to get it too, but I wouldn't be glad that you didn't. You know, 'a rising tide lifts all boats' and all that..."

Her: "Now you're just trying to make me feel bad!"

Me: "Do you feel bad?"

Her: "Well, I didn't until I talked to you..."

Me: "I wasn't trying to make you feel bad, I just wanted to know what you were thinking (or if you were thinking at all - I didn't say that!)..."


Some things never change...




Kevin
 
Even though it pains me to say it, Kevin....female drama at its best. :whatever: I know you're smart enough to realize that all women (and FA's) are not like that. :)
 
Im sorry did someone say something.....


All I can think about are those lips suck starting a capti... I mean a Harley...







Forgive me I get lonley flying all these boxes around, no eye candy for me.
 
I know I'm getting here late but... It may just be me, but I don't find the woman doing the new brief to be even remotely attractive - even given the huge, possibly fake, BJ lips. Even so, I can't see anyone finding the video even slightly offensive.
 
Oh Staplegun, you're on the bad FO list now too! Now I don't feel so bad.

I'm on the list again since today. We had a brand new hire that came to the cockpit to look around and say hi. The older flight attendant ran up to the cockpit, physically pulled her out and exclaimed, "She's GOT to get to work" and slammed our door shut.

I was already done with my duties, so I walked to the back of the aircraft where she was standing around the galley doing nothing, brought her back to the cockpit and introduced her to the rest of the crew and showed her around and we all took time to answer her questions.

Apparently, during the flight, she got a lecture about how all pilots lie, always wear your wedding band, never trust pilots and never 'fraternize' with them. Blah blah blah.

So we got to the layover hotel and the captain covered drinks and tapas for her apart from the rest of the flight attendants. In fact, the rest weren't even invited to go out with us.

Methinks she's going to have a long ride back to JFK but there's no point in wrecking a new employee's spirit so early in the game with your petty emotional baggage. Good for her!
 
Rocketman99 said:
I know I'm getting here late but... It may just be me, but I don't find the woman doing the new brief to be even remotely attractive - even given the huge, possibly fake, BJ lips. Even so, I can't see anyone finding the video even slightly offensive.
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Well, she's not my type at all, but it's a safety video, not a match.com video, ya know? :)
 
Doug Taylor said:
In the meantime, we've got pilots flying in civilian clothes in JFK because the roof collapsed and there's a potential asbestos contamination! :)

"I swear! My hat was in the commuter room!"
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The roof at terminal 3 collapsed? How is it that I live in the tri state area and the news has not picked that up yet?:banghead: or maybe I missed it?
 
Doug Taylor said:
Oh Staplegun, you're on the bad FO list now too! Now I don't feel so bad.

I'm on the list again since today. We had a brand new hire that came to the cockpit to look around and say hi. The older flight attendant ran up to the cockpit, physically pulled her out and exclaimed, "She's GOT to get to work" and slammed our door shut.

I was already done with my duties, so I walked to the back of the aircraft where she was standing around the galley doing nothing, brought her back to the cockpit and introduced her to the rest of the crew and showed her around and we all took time to answer her questions.

Apparently, during the flight, she got a lecture about how all pilots lie, always wear your wedding band, never trust pilots and never 'fraternize' with them. Blah blah blah.

So we got to the layover hotel and the captain covered drinks and tapas for her apart from the rest of the flight attendants. In fact, the rest weren't even invited to go out with us.

Methinks she's going to have a long ride back to JFK but there's no point in wrecking a new employee's spirit so early in the game with your petty emotional baggage. Good for her!
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That is so ridiculously sad. Do they think she doesn't have a brain to make her own choices? Jesus. What is it with some women? They hate pilots (or men in general) so much. Seems like a weird job to have, if you ask me!
 
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