jtrain609
Antisocial Monster
Let me make sure I've got this straight.
CFI's can't fly.
RJ FO's can't fly.
Student pilots can't fly.
Private pilots can't fly.
Actually it would seem that only YOU know best.
Good job.
Flap retraction on the runway
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Let me make sure I've got this straight.
CFI's can't fly.
RJ FO's can't fly.
Student pilots can't fly.
Private pilots can't fly.
Actually it would seem that only YOU know best.
Good job.
cmill
Cold Ass Honky
Like has been said, i dont know anything about anything from a 707- to a 787. All I know that is in my line of work it perfectly normal to retract flaps while doing a million other things. We even make drastic flap changes while on take off.
I cant beleive this has gone on for eight pages. I dont really care you know whats best for your big ass jet. Theres no reason to go saying that any and all flap changes are dangerous while on the rwy or whatever ever -way you use.
If you try to assert that any config changes are dangerous, then you need to open your mind. What works on a 300 pax jet could be disastrous on a 6 person prop, but guess what, people die either way. I think we can all agree on we dont want anybody to die.
I cant beleive this has gone on for eight pages. I dont really care you know whats best for your big ass jet. Theres no reason to go saying that any and all flap changes are dangerous while on the rwy or whatever ever -way you use.
If you try to assert that any config changes are dangerous, then you need to open your mind. What works on a 300 pax jet could be disastrous on a 6 person prop, but guess what, people die either way. I think we can all agree on we dont want anybody to die.
Nark
Macho Superpilot
No, some CFI's, RJ FO's ,student and private pilots are excelent in the rhelm in which they fly.
It's when these wondrous warriors such as yourself try to tell those of us who fly in much different environments than you, how to fly, you get to meet the satirical that I can be.
If I want advice on how to fly an RJ, I'll ask the thousand's of furloughed RJ pilots out there. If I want to learn how to do a lazy eight I'll ask a CFI.
Douglas
Old School KSUX
I do believe that was the gist of it.
jtrain609
Antisocial Monster
I know, I pretty much went from my mothers womb to an RJ.
I didn't spend my other 10 years of flying doing other things.
cmill
Cold Ass Honky
Just like how you tell anyone that flies differently from you that they're wrong?
Bandit_Driver
Gold Member
Never had that problem in the Ovations and I flew it very crappy weather.
Nark
Macho Superpilot
Here is a short anecdote:
Pilot A and B fly the same airplanes into the same airport, with same conditions.
Pilot A can consistently make smooth landings and make the taxiway.
Pilot B can consistently make smooth landings but fails to make the taxiway and needs to backtrack (back taxi for you FAA only types) in order to clear.
While one is neither right nor wrong as both arrive safely, one has clearly a better technique.
Pilot A and B fly the same airplanes into the same airport, with same conditions.
Pilot A can consistently make smooth landings and make the taxiway.
Pilot B can consistently make smooth landings but fails to make the taxiway and needs to backtrack (back taxi for you FAA only types) in order to clear.
While one is neither right nor wrong as both arrive safely, one has clearly a better technique.
dasleben
That's just, like, your opinion, man
I've pretty clearly made my points in this thread. Beyond that, I don't have a thing to prove to your enormous ego.
Nark
Macho Superpilot
Well then it's probably a good thing that I fly an airplane that can support both me and my ego, and still make my boss money.
Kestrel452
Well-Known Member
I really expected that Marines, such as yourself, would have a much more disciplined personality than the one you show here.
I was thinking the same thing. Thanks for pointing that out. And since you've been back, your humble attitude is much eaiser on my eyes(eaiser to read). Thanks for being such a stand up guy Mitch. I mean it too.
And when the boss asks "Why am I spending so much more money on equipment maintenance for pilot A? I think I'll have to have a talk with pilot A."
Whats your excuse going to be for your boss. Something like "Well, I don't follow company procedures because I like to get off at the first taxi way, screw your equipment."
Bandit_Driver
Gold Member
Was going to say the same thing. Taxiing is easier on an aircraft than trying to make the first turn off.
esa17
Well-Known Member
What about when company policy is to retract the flaps ASAP on the runway and exit as soon as practical? The same conversation is had with the employer:
"Pilot A's times are consistently a few minutes faster than yours along the same routes at the same time. What gives? Why am I paying you the same and you're costing me more money?"
contactground.9
Banned
Pilot b is costing more in maintenance though...
"first PRACTICAL" turnoff " not first available. If you have. To slow down.. Then slow down. Don't bend metal trying to wrench it to the first turn.
"first PRACTICAL" turnoff " not first available. If you have. To slow down.. Then slow down. Don't bend metal trying to wrench it to the first turn.
Nark
Macho Superpilot
You must not know many Marines then.
ESA, we need to go back to Jet University like these guys and learn how to fly all over again. Clearly we are dangerous.
I also didn't say the first taxiway did I. I could do that in the airplane, however it would be at the expense of passenger comfort and large wear on the brakes. Something that you also must consider.
Also another consideration: Airmanship. ESA17 and I work for competing companies, who often arrive within seconds of each other at the same airport. He doesn't screw me, nor I him by taking my sweet time on the runway.
ASpilot2be
Qbicle seat warmer
Well then I would do just as the SOPs say. If they say get them ASAP, I will get them up ASAP. If they say leave them down till clearing the runway, then down they stay.
At this point if I dont have to raise the the flaps immediately, I wont. I can still get down safely, and make my taxiway. But then again I dont fly as regularly as some of you guys go.
greaper007
Well-Known Member
Flaps suck, I use an anchor that I toss out the window on touchdown.
8 pages later I think it's finally time for everyone to compare penis size. Smallest wins, just because that sounds more interesting.
8 pages later I think it's finally time for everyone to compare penis size. Smallest wins, just because that sounds more interesting.
dasleben
That's just, like, your opinion, man
Then I guess I'm in last place. :dunno: Heyoooooo.