Facility Paycheck

Sorry I should have addressed the original question but I left on a tangent. Everyone is scheduled for 40 hours/week. If you aren't at the facility you will either be on leave w/o pay, anuual leave, sick leave, family sick leave, etc and you will be charged for it. It's not the same as the military where you get early cut outs and still get paid or where you are asked to work past your eight hours and get shafted on the OT and no extra pay. If you work OT in the FAA you get OT pay or credit, which I will not get into because it's not something to worry about now. It will come later when you get to your fac. Is this making any sense? My salary is $45K/year however I will make more than that due to OT, night diff. and sunday prem. Even if I take leave, it's paid leave so obviously...you get paid while you're on it. Same thing with sick leave. The only way you will ever make less than your base is if you had to take LWOP I believe. Someone correct me if I am wrong. It's really not too complicated, just hard to explain through a forum.:panic:

HD


Ya done good...ya done good!
 
I understand that the longer you have been employed the more time you accrue towards leave and sick days ect per pay period. Does prior military time count for anything in these calculations, ie leave, sickpay, retirement?

Also could someone dive into Sunday premium pay? Assuming OT is the normal 1.5 x base pay, that is pretty clear. Are Holidays 2 x base? and lastly is there any other sort of abnormal pay scale that you may fall under for a specific day/time working?
 
I understand that the longer you have been employed the more time you accrue towards leave and sick days ect per pay period. Does prior military time count for anything in these calculations, ie leave, sickpay, retirement?
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Prior military active duty and activated reserves time counts for leave. If you have three years active, you'll start accruing six hours leave per pay period, vs. four hours for government newbies. Sick leave is four hours per pay period, regardless of time in service to the government.
 
Also could someone dive into Sunday premium pay? Assuming OT is the normal 1.5 x base pay, that is pretty clear. Are Holidays 2 x base? What is Night Diff? and lastly is there any other sort of abnormal pay scale that you may fall under for a specific day/time working?
 
Also could someone dive into Sunday premium pay? Assuming OT is the normal 1.5 x base pay, that is pretty clear. Are Holidays 2 x base? What is Night Diff? and lastly is there any other sort of abnormal pay scale that you may fall under for a specific day/time working?

Really tryna squeeze the last dollar out of that paycheck huh...:laff:

I don't blame you.
 
Really tryna squeeze the last dollar out of that paycheck huh...:laff:

I don't blame you.

Seriously. With the paychecks being bi-weekly instead of semi-monthly, that means they are even smaller than I expected. Going to be tight that first year I tell ya..
 
Seriously. With the paychecks being bi-weekly instead of semi-monthly, that means they are even smaller than I expected. Going to be tight that first year I tell ya..
But there'll be 26 paychecks per year, instead of 24. Look at the bright side. :)
 
Do we recieve night diff pay while at the academy?

No night diff. for the new OKC hires. Only when you go back to OKC for RTF should you collect night diff. (however I still haven't received mine:mad:)

And to answer the other question a few posts up, night diff is 10% and Sunday premium is 25%

HD
 
No night diff. for the new OKC hires. Only when you go back to OKC for RTF should you collect night diff. (however I still haven't received mine:mad:)

And to answer the other question a few posts up, night diff is 10% and Sunday premium is 25%

HD


Thanks for the info.. now I can budget to the .001% of a penny of how broke I will be for the next year. Small price to pay in the big picture. Appreciate the intel.
 
I understand that the longer you have been employed the more time you accrue towards leave and sick days ect per pay period. For your entire career, you will get 4 hours per pay period for SL. As for annual leave, from 0 - 3 years, you earn 4 hours of AL per pay period. From 3 - 15 years of service, you earn 6 hours per pay period of AL, and from 15 years up, you earn 8 hours per pay period of AL. Yes, military time counts here, so does any previous federal govt employment time you may have.
Does prior military time count for anything in these calculations, ie leave, sickpay, retirement? As for retirement, if you "buy back" your military time(don't ask me to explain how that works, been in for 22 years and was an OTS hire at the time), it too can count towrd retirement. But not toward your good time 20 or 25 years, its in addition to that time for computing your pension amount based upon total years of service. For example you have 4 years of military. You hire into the FAA at age 23, so will have to do 25 years of active traffic (good time - some jobs do not count towrds good time. Controller slots, first line supe slots, TMC are all good. Staff specialist jobs, even though they may remian current and work traffic are not good time), and you will be eligible to retire at age 48. You get 1.7% for the first 20 years, then 1% addl for each year after that. So you work for 25 years, all good time, in the FAA, you get 39% of the average of your "highest 3 years of consecutive (base + locaility) pay". If your high-3 average was $100,000, you would get $39,000 annually. Then remembering your 4 years of military time, you could add an addl 4% to that 39% figure, so your annual pension would be $43,000 per year pension. You also get a social security supplement in addition to your pension from the time you retire until age 62 when you will start recieveing a real SS check. This figure is roughly 65% of what you would get if you look on that statement you get every year near your B-Day from the Social Security Admin. If you take the figure on that statement where it says on the top of the 2nd page, "If you have earned enough credits to qualify for benefits. At you current earnings rate, if you stop working.....at age 62, your payment would be (insert amount here). As another example, my figure is $1593 per month. The formula is as follows: You divide the number of years you served under the Federal Employee Retirement System (we'll use 29 years again for calculation - your 25 years of FAA ATC + 4 years military) by 40 = So, 29 / 40 = 0.725. Then you take that figure and multiply it by your number off the SS Statement (we'll use my $1593 figure just for the sake of the example) = 0.725 x $1593 = $1154.92 is what I would get monthly from when I retire (at age 48) until I turn age 62. Remember this is in addition to your pension check of $43,000 annually. Retirments are paid once monthly instead of bi-weekly. So figure $43,000 / 12 months = $3583.33 + 1154.92 = $4738.25 is what you'd recive from the govt monthly when you retire before taxes and your share of health insurance premiums (the govt still pays their part even efter you retire).

Also could someone dive into Sunday premium pay? Assuming OT is the normal 1.5 x base pay, that is pretty clear. Are Holidays 2 x base? Holiday leave is double time, however if you are lucky enough to be granted holiday leave, you are paid straight time for not being there. Also if the holiday falls on your Sunday, then your holiday for pay purposes falls on your Friday, and if it falls on your Saturday, then for pay purposes its is on your Monday. (Example: You have Thursday and Fridays off, Thanks giving is on Thursday. Then your holiday is on the Saturday that you return back to work after Thanksgiving). Holidays move, for pay reasons. So just b/c you weren't there on Thursday as it was your RDO (regular day off), doesn't meaning you're not entitled to Holiday Pay. OT is time and a hlaf.
and lastly is there any other sort of abnormal pay scale that you may fall under for a specific day/time working?
Premium Pays include nights and Sunday. You will get 10% differential for work done between 6 PM and 6 AM. And you recieve 25% differential for Sunday Pay. Also if you become a trainer (at some point), you will get 10% for all the time you are signed on with a developmental while training on a control position.

Hope this helps.
 
The leave year evolves around the turn of the calendar year, and inconjunjction with the pay period rotation.

SL may accrue and be carried over year to year throughout your entire career - with no limit on the amount you may carry over. Many folks near the end of their careers, get a Doctor to prescribe some type of drug upon which they cannot work, and then take SL until they are eligible to retire, using all that they have accruied over the years. We have a couple of folks who have taken several months off just prior to their actual retirement using this process in order to burn this leave balance down.

AL you may carryover no more than 240 hours per year, so if you have more than that its termed "use or lose" annual leave. Most people I work with use all of their leave, or as much as possible, the majority do not have use or lose. There is an exception to this rule. If you do time at a Carribbean, Alaska, Hawaii, or Guam, or outside the CONUS (Continental US) facility, you may carryover 360 hours of AL per year. Those of us who have use or lose at the end of the year that we are unable to actually use (the percentage of folks in this catagory is very small) generally donate the leave to someone on the leave donor list who needs it for some medical or familial reasons (you have to go through an approval process with the FAA to get on this list....as an example we have a newer controller, 1 year in the FAA, who had pretty major surgury and was out for a month. The FAA approved this person to be on this list, because she was going to exhaust her leave balances while out and be without a pay check without leave donations from other folks).

We also have credit time and comp time. Comp has a cash value when you retire, so the FAA is weighing heavily around not approving you earning this these days, although back in the early and middle 1990s, it was their preference to paying OT, so many of us have rather large balances (in my case earned at GS-10 rate before reclasss, which they will have to pay me at 1.5% of my current ATC-12 rate - not a smart move on their part). Credit is one hour for one hour worked. Someone correct me if I am wrong, but I beleive you are limited to only 24 hours of this on the books at any one time, and has no cash value, but can be used for addl leave time. (This was also a trendy FAA ploy back in the 1990s in leiu of OT, and again many of us have hundreds of hours worth on the books, so the had to limit it).
 
HiDef, you said your salary was roughly $45k...how long have you been a ATC and what type of location are you at?

Just curious...

also...
When you're at the Academy its like $16k for the amount of time you're THERE or equivalent to $16k a year while you're there...
basically...like $20 per hour or $9 per hour? I figure the $9...
 
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