FAA grounding of all 737s

ackeight said:
I know the news said that the engine "caught fire" and caused the aircraft to turn into scrap, but my question is could this be linked to Boeings wonderful reputation of their aircraft to catch fire because of excess current in fuel tanks? I was watching something about a month ago on TV about previous 737's (and the TWA flt 800) catching fire while on the ground and an "expert" was saying it is a matter of time before another 73 burns and we are overdue. I'll research who said it and what program it was. Also, I know they have an AD out for the -300, -400, and -500 series for this very reason. Could they have fixed this before the -800 came out?
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Apparently even thinking that makes you an accident investigator around here. Tsk Tsk.
 
ackeight said:
I know the news said that the engine "caught fire" and caused the aircraft to turn into scrap, but my question is could this be linked to Boeings wonderful reputation of their aircraft to catch fire because of excess current in fuel tanks?
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Early reports suggest this started either as an engine fire or an uncontained engine failure. The fuel boost pump issue you refer to is not even located near the engine.

I was watching something about a month ago on TV about previous 737's (and the TWA flt 800) catching fire while on the ground and an "expert" was saying it is a matter of time before another 73 burns and we are overdue.
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The fuel boost pump issue you're referring to has been addressed by special procedures until the faulty boost pumps can be replaced. Don't believe everything you hear on TV. Remember, reporters aren't pilots OR aeronautical engineers. The filter they view news like this is called IGNORANCE.
 
88MPH said:
Pfft ... its China's problem. Let them deal with it. :sarcasm:

Nice try Max, but he runs a program where anytime his name "brand x" is loaded, he gets a fraction of a penny that gets rounded off into an account.

####, I just gave him $0.000000001. :banghead: :banghead:
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Isn't that what they did in Superman 3?
 
China Airlines:

2007= 737 crash NEW***

2002= 747-200 crash
1999 = something crashed dunno what it was
1998= Md-11 ( I think)
1994= something else crashed this year

One China Airlines aircraft has crashed every 2.6 yrs. for the last 13 years with a total of 1,000 people dead!

This is a pretty horrible record here, no? :drool:
 
bike21 said:
We shared a cabin on a train once somewhere in Europe with a nice couple from Hong Kong. They made sure to let us know that they were from Hong Kong and NOT China.

It is confusing to a lot of us, but many Taiwan and Hong Kong inhabitants distance themselves from big China. Even though China 'administers' the territories.
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Taiwan isn't administered by China.


China considers it a territory. Taiwan considers itself independant. Might very well end up with war someday... but regardless, Taiwan isn't administered by China. However, China does administer Hong Kong.
 
bike21 said:
We shared a cabin on a train once somewhere in Europe with a nice couple from Hong Kong. They made sure to let us know that they were from Hong Kong and NOT China.

It is confusing to a lot of us, but many Taiwan and Hong Kong inhabitants distance themselves from big China. Even though China 'administers' the territories.
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The simplified explanation is that the current government of China claims that Taiwan is part of it. They have never actually "administered" or exercised any control over Taiwan.

The two political entities have completely different governments and systems, including their aviation infrastructures. Thus, comparing the safety record of a Taiwan-based airline with standards in mainland China is essentially comparing apples and oranges.

The China Airlines name is left over from the time when Taiwan's government still claimed to be the legitimate government of all China. They no longer make that claim and there are proposals to change the company's name to "Taiwan Airlines" but it's a highly bitter and emotionally-charged issue, and best left for another day!
 
SeanD said:
Keep in mind China does not have the greatest safety record as far as aviation goes. Wow the more I think about it China has been Effing up a lot lately. If they risk losing business by cutting corners to save a penny on animal food and toys why not airplanes.
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Uh, a little geography and history lesson here. China Airlines is not based in mainland China, where the tainted animal food and paint came from.

China Airlines is a Taiwanese company. And Taiwan hasn't been connected to the tainted animal food and paint.

You're welcome.

Also, Taiwan has NEVER been administered by the government that's in mainland China. Hell, it's never been administered by mainland China at all. Back when there were pirates based in Taiwan raiding western ships, when the western countries complained to China, they said, that's Taiwan, we don't control it.

More recently, Taiwan belonged to Japan as part of the treaty that ended the war between Japan and China. Then after WWII, control of Taiwan was given to the allies. Chiang Kai Shek was merely the allied representative when he took charge.
 
SeanD said:
Wow, not much left of it here http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20351109/ What ever happened it looks to have taken our the entire left wing leaving the right wing mostly untouched. Nothing a little duct tape cant fix.
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In light of this, I think they should remove the left wings from all 737's until the cause of the problem is found... no need to ground the entire fleet as originally suggested. :bandit:




(disclaimer: in case the little bandito didn't convey the idea... this post was intended to be as stupid as the original.)
 
Okay, if nothing else this thread proved to me Brand X is a troll. If it had been a 757 or a 767, think he woulda asked if we should ground all of those? Nope. UPS flies them. Since it's an a/c type NOT in the UPS fleet, it's a prime opportunity to stir up trouble. This is even assuming he is a pilot at UPS. My bet is on frustrated delivery driver, though.

Then there's the Alaska crack. No doubt doing knowing there's another outspoken JC member that flies for them. Baiting people into an arguement is so 8th grade.....
 
To get this topic back on track:

China Airlines has grounded all of its 737-800s to inspect the fuel systems, and Japan has requested its airlines to inspect its 737-800s as well.

p.s. The Captain spoke briefly at a press conference this morning, something which I've never seen before after such an incident.
 
Doug Taylor said:
Well, I think the cause of the fire is due to combustible material. What do I win? :)
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You win 2 prizes.....

1. You get to fly for suthernjets to great places in Europe and your wife can go with you.

2. You get to own a website with a bunch of aviation junkies and get to deal with all the headaches that come with it......lucky you...fortunate junkies
 
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