FAA ATP

[GoDawgsGo]

Apart of lower insurance rate, ATP SEL is not that useful.

You said it's useless. I told you why it's not. I'm guessing for guys that have TBMs or something similar it reduces their rates significantly.

Also, if you had a choice of sharing busy airspace with a bunch of GA pilots would you rather be around guys that only have a PP, or IR pilots that also have a CSEL and ATP SEL? No brainer.

 

[hammerhat]

Doesn't PlaneSense require ATP SEL for captains?

 

[Inverted25]

It is tricky and grey area.

If one has a ATP-MEL, does s/he still require to sit for ATP-SEL written even though there is ATP-SEL written specifically for pre-requisite of ATP-SEL check-ride?


When I did my ATP SEL and SES I did it during the two years my ATP multi written was still valid so that counted. Examiner told me how my written been expired I would have had to take the ATP written again for the single engine stuff even though I held the Multi ATP




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[Roger Roger]

Doesn't PlaneSense require ATP SEL for captains?

Maybe, but it would be a company/insurance policy (which means more than likely in the pilot shortage that it’s being thrown out the window) not regulatory. AFAIK there is no operation that requires an ATPSEL on a regulatory basis. Unless you can do EOD 135 in a SE?

 

[CFI A&P]

Maybe, but it would be a company/insurance policy (which means more than likely in the pilot shortage that it’s being thrown out the window) not regulatory. AFAIK there is no operation that requires an ATPSEL on a regulatory basis. Unless you can do EOD 135 in a SE?

The only 10+ passenger singles that come to mind are the AN2 or DHC-3. AN2 would be experimental exhibition in the US, but the Otter has a type certificate and is common on this side of the globe. The TCDS states it can be as dense as a 1+15 configuration. Wouldn't that require an ATP-SEL or SES under 135.243 (a)(1) ?

 

[Roger Roger]

The only 10+ passenger singles that come to mind are the AN2 or DHC-3. AN2 would be experimental exhibition in the US, but the Otter has a type certificate and is common on this side of the globe. The TCDS states is can be as dense as a 1+15 configuration. Wouldn't that require an ATP-SEL or SES under 135.243 (a)(1) ?

edit: misread.

The otter is under some kind of exemption/grandfather to operate at 10 pax in the USA. Normally going over 9 triggers a lot of extra requirements that otter operators aren’t subject to. I’m pretty sure most of the Otter drivers don’t have an ATPSEL.

 

[ahw01]

Yeh the Caravan EX on floats can fly 14 pax under an exemption. Don't know about licensing though.

 

[mshunter]

By the way, I can’t help but notice that you didn’t offer any form of suggestion for the OP. Why bother posting if you’re not going to answer their question?


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