F22 Crash

CN94559 said:
thats not what I was insinuating. I was just saying even the best jets and best pilots have to be careful. they're just as likely to crash as we are.
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If interested, Key Dismukes' book, The Limits of Expertise, is very enlightening. Sometimes there is not enough time or altitude even for the best to make it out.

Some names come to mind.. Scott Crossfield. Nick Warner.

As for the best airplanes, I think it was the when the F-14 was coming into service it was pronounced practically spin proof. In no time at all, reportedly a 'nugget' proved that wrong.
 
aloft said:
As of this afternoon, 134.
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Here in Marietta, I see them frequently on flight test in the new unpainted scheme and usually with an F-16 in chase.

I was down in the Florida panhandle this week and numerous F-22s out of Tyndall. Odd thing was that the F-22s went and arrived single ship while the F-15s were usually in 3 ship formation or also single ship. ???

Read just recently the first guys right out of UPT have gotten F-22 assignments. Must be one helluva ride.. 25-26yrs old flying a machine that super-cruises and routinely operates above FL600.

-22 is a BIG airplane. I wonder if John Boyd is rolling over in his grave.
 
RIP to what sounds like another great serviceman.

Orange Anchor said:
-22 is a BIG airplane. I wonder if John Boyd is rolling over in his grave.
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Not likely. Boyd wanted the -16 to supercruise. Boyd was worried about energy more than just size. The Raptor has a lot of that.
 
mhcasey said:
Not likely. Boyd wanted the -16 to supercruise. Boyd was worried about energy more than just size. The Raptor has a lot of that.
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I read most of the books on Boyd and his OODA loop. Even downloaded some of his presentations. Not aware the -16 was supposed to super-cruise. But yes, his arguments for the ability to rapdily change states brought us some magnificent machines.
 
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