bunk22
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The pilot and back seater both ejected safely though I think the pilot had back injuries. Like said, Iran was flying F-4's but not in the Med!
F-14 pilot who shot down USAF RF-4C Phantom makes Admiral...
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The pilot and back seater both ejected safely though I think the pilot had back injuries. Like said, Iran was flying F-4's but not in the Med!
bunk22
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That's the issue, he knew it was our guy. My old boss was in the squadron when it happened, he said the guy had issues before this. Nice to have a father in a high position I suppose.
staledog
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Oddly enough, I was at Pima air museum this month and they had a P-51 there with an American flag kill marking on it, they said in WWII the pilot shot out the engines and downed an American transport plane because he knew it was headed to an island that had been taken over by the Japs and he had no way to contact them. They wouldn't follow him to safety, so he put them in the ocean. They all got rescued, and he got a flag on his plane.
bunk22
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Exactly what I was thinking. Just like George H. W. Bush and his son.
How does that equate at all? What is with these idiotic comparisons lol
Dads in high places sometimes get jobs for sons who may not be completely competent.
Younger Bush allegedly had low flight aptitude scores, yet got a pilot slot in the Air National Guard. Described himself as an average student, yet got into Yale, and graduated from Harvard Business School. I don't think he would be so blessed with opportunity had his father not done some things right.
bunk22
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Again, apples and coconuts, not even close. Don't be jealous of the President's success, he went to Yale, went to Harvard Business School, was President...get over it. This guy shot down a friendly aircraft and not on accident, a huge mistake. Granted, he is SELRES and made rank there but still, the Navy is big on punishing folks for giving someone a callsign they don't like, or making a video that offends someone, etc. Yet shoot down a friendly aircraft, go reserves, make rank. Could be good lawyers too.
trafficinsight
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Silly thread shenanigans aside, does the story told seem plausible? It kinda seemed to me that though the F-4 was supposed to be there, it suddenly did something unexpected and possibly spooked some folks.
I know nothing about these kinds of ops, but I would imagine that if the boat says shoot, you shoot. Right? I mean doing the opposite could mean loss of the boat.
I know nothing about these kinds of ops, but I would imagine that if the boat says shoot, you shoot. Right? I mean doing the opposite could mean loss of the boat.
This Navy guy who shot down the Air Force plane, don't you think he would have been discharged if his dad wasn't a high ranking official? That's all I'm sayin'.
bunk22
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No, it was an exercise, he f'ed up royally. Crazy that in this day and age, a callsign that offends someone or a video made offends someone and the CO gets fired. Shoot down a US aircraft, make flag rank. I get that he's SELRES, easier to make rank but what probably should have come out of that was a negative FITREP at a minimum, something very hard to overcome.
Springer
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Got an email from the AF pilot that was shot down intentionally by a Navy F-14 during an exercise in '87. Seems that the Navy pilot was up for Admiral but was passed over after his past was revealed. Sorry I could not post the article but here is the link:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/jan/3/senate-balks-at-promotion-for-navy-officer-who-sho/
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/jan/3/senate-balks-at-promotion-for-navy-officer-who-sho/
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Train like you fight. Fight like you train. Interpretations will apparently vary. I've always considered opening fire on friendlies to be rude.
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chrisreedrules
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Now that is a story I'd love to hear more about... Any pictures of the mustang?
ryan1234
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http://www.warbirdinformationexchange.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=21646&highlight=louis+curdes
Curdes flew with the 95th FS and was downed on Aug 27, 1943 over Italy.
His Dinah kill was on Feb 7, 1945 over Formosa.
The C-47 incident was on Feb 10, 1945 near Bataan Island.
Suddenly, Curdes noticed a black speck coming from the southwest toward the enemy-held landing strip at Bataan. Then the speck became a dead ringer for a C-47. And, as the wheels came down on the transport, Curdes saw the American markings. Curdes closed to give the 47 a closer look. At this point, AAA opened up - at Curdes’ P-51 but not at the transport. Curdes banked steeply headed into the flak, and opened up with its fifties on the C-47’s right engine. As the transport headed out to sea, with one engine gone, Curdes made a 180-degree turn fired into the other engine. The C-47 settled into the water.
Curdes dived in to strafe after all occupants of the transport climbed aboard life rafts, but he observed in time that the survivors were Caucasian. So he went back to his low level circling. His water bound charges had grown from one to thirteen. When darkness fell and still no help had arrived, Curdes figured all would be safe until dawn and returned to his base. The next morning before daylight, he and his wingman took off. And they were circling over the survivors when a rescue Catalina arrived to pick them up. Back at base, Curdes learned that the C-47 had been American manned with 12 occupants including two Army nurses. The pilot had become lost during a flight from Art island in the southern Philippines and had been forced to head for the nearest visible strip because of a fuel shortage. One of the nurses was the "date" he had been with the night before at Lingayen. He was later awarded the DFC
chrisreedrules
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I love it! That may be an new up coming release for us. Great story, thanks for sharing.