Expressjet offering COLAs (voluntary furloughs) to pilots...

[tonyw]

Re: Expressjet offering COLAs (voluntary furloughs) to pilot

I'd want my company to do everything in it's power in order to keep me employed, even if it meant a paycut. Those cuts would only be temporary and I'd have lots of time to make up the difference when I get on with a major.

You never, ever, ever, ever give something to any company in hopes that you'll get it back.

Consider what you've got with any employer to be the equivalent of your virginity. Once you give it up, it's gone, and there ain't a damn thing you can do to get it back.

And then they know you'll put out, too, and they stop doing the equivalent of buying you nice dinners, flowers, and jewelry.

 

[Maurus]

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Just opened a 145 base there.

Thats what I thought. Just an extra option in my future if one or the other options don't work out.

 

[WindyCityPilot]

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Hi Matt. I love your avatar. You know what they say about guys that go out of their way proclaiming that they are straight don't you!

What? Do you want to come over and tell me?

(See two can play this game!)

(Yeah this is FlyChicaga BTW)

 

[FlyingPoke]

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Hope xjet can figure things out, they were my #1... but I guess I can just hold out for Republic and try to get IAH with them. Guess my wait just got a little longer (possibly)... The end of the hiring boom is looming it would seem.

 

[Proud Pilot]

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Hope xjet can figure things out, they were my #1... but I guess I can just hold out for Republic and try to get IAH with them. Guess my wait just got a little longer (possibly)... The end of the hiring boom is looming it would seem.

Unfortunately, I think you are correct. This is the reason I am in such a hurry to get on with a regional and get my 1000hrs turbine PIC so I can get to a major before they stop hiring again.

 

[Nick]

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Unfortunately, I think you are correct. This is the reason I am in such a hurry to get on with a regional and get my 1000hrs turbine PIC so I can get to a major before they stop hiring again.

That takes several years.

Then, if you are hired just as they stop hiring for years, you're on reserve for that amount of time.

Starting to see why be able to wait it out at a decent regional important?

 

[FlyingPoke]

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Unfortunately, I think you are correct. This is the reason I am in such a hurry to get on with a regional and get my 1000hrs turbine PIC so I can get to a major before they stop hiring again.

:banghead:

Is this a joke... this guy is throwing every bad cliche out there, "Im just gonna be here a while before I go to a Major"... "Take a pay cut to help the company out"..."Im gonna get 1000 PIC TURBINE ASAP, PS I dont know how to fly through a could yet!"... this seems like a flame bait inspired user... avatar included

 

[Proud Pilot]

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That takes several years.

Then, if you are hired just as they stop hiring for years, you're on reserve for that amount of time.

Starting to see why be able to wait it out at a decent regional important?

There is no such thing as a decent regional. I want to get on with the one with the quickest upgrade time so I can get my 1000hr turbine PIC and get on with a major. I'm not going to "wait it out". I've set a goal of being a major airline pilot and I will achieve it as quickly as possible.

 

[fosters]

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Unfortunately, I think you are correct. This is the reason I am in such a hurry to get on with a regional and get my 1000hrs turbine PIC so I can get to a major before they stop hiring again.

These posts are too "stereotypical" and are not very believable.

alterego, eh??

 

[MissedApproach]

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Think Mesa... and see how that's working out.

And if you are... remember that they're basically hiring street captains on the CRJ. If you get furloughed from XJET it may not be a bad gig if you're willing to give up your life until you have that magical 1000 PIC.

 

[Proud Pilot]

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These posts are too "stereotypical" and are not very believable.

alterego, eh??

So, since I don't want to follow the "traditional" path to the airlines I'm being made fun of? What makes your way better than mine? Some of you sound like the bigots that I have to put up with in everyday life.

 

[charlie1017]

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There is no such thing as a decent regional. I want to get on with the one with the quickest upgrade time so I can get my 1000hr turbine PIC and get on with a major. I'm not going to "wait it out". I've set a goal of being a major airline pilot and I will achieve it as quickly as possible.

Proud, many of these folks have more hours and experience than either you or me... I suggest you listen to them...

 

[Kristie]

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I hope the best for your commute Maurus, but not at the expense of my company. Regardless... this doesn't mean there will be growth for the other COEX carrier... just take a look at your line value's and block hours. Overall... the only block hours that seem to be increaseing for the "regional" feeds for CAL this year are Colgan's.

The COLA's will typically end up going senior, and they are being offered to anyone on any side of the business (XJT, CAL, DAL). They are being offered for 1-3 months at this time. With a COLA... the following is true:

1. You keep your seniority.
2. You keep your longevity.
3. You keep you base.
4. You only have to pay the exact same amount for insurance... than you are currently.
5. You keep your travel bennies.
6. You don't accumulate sick time or vacation time.

Man... if you are young... and love to travel, or have always wanted to "try" something new for a temporary period of time... then this would be a nice little thing to have right now. Those who took COLA's after 9/11 had nothing but good things to say about the time they took off.

Not trying to paint too rosey of a picture... but... it's obviously better than the dreaded "F" word. Also better than XJT grovelling back to CAL to renegotiate lower rates that would downgrade the industry as a whole and possibly lead to pilot concessions.

To me... it's Manangement taking the next logical step they need to... with the decrease in block hours for this year... without taking any drastic steps and still being able to keep all pilots on a relatively "short call".

Bob

Just for understanding purposes...what's the reason for this and what's behind this? is it just so the company doesn't have to furlough or did they lose their flying or just losses all together?

EDIT: Read Flychicaga's post about why.....still not quite understanding the reason for COLA would be used vs furlough cuz if they're cutting down block time, that's not temporary is it?

 

[fosters]

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So, since I don't want to follow the "traditional" path to the airlines I'm being made fun of? What makes your way better than mine? Some of you sound like the bigots that I have to put up with in everyday life.

I never said anything about your path to a major airline. I just read a previous post in this thread where windycitypilot was also flychicaga or something like that..I thought maybe there was some sort of game going on.

If not, good luck to You! If you're determined you can do it.

 

[Kristie]

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That's a very ignorant way to look at this. Why don't you ask all those legacy pilots how 'temporary' their pay cuts have been? anic:

You need to wake up and join the real world.

nah... he just needs to educate himself... do some research on and off the site! and *then* join the real world

 

[jml2992]

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Traditional or not...you have to work your tail off to get anywhere in this industry and believe me, people are not going to be hammering your door down to hire you just because you have minimums for an airline. They are exactly that: minimums. Instead of fighting with folks online, I would suggest a little more research and some of Seg's suggested reading: "Flying the Line (Vol. 1 and 2)" to begin with or even better, "Stick and Rudder." I am not so impressed by a guy with thousands of hours in his logbook as much as I am by someone who can express empathy and understand that the fragile state of our industry rests in the hands of those coming up through the ranks. Work hard and be proud of what you do.

 

[KLB]

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So, since I don't want to follow the "traditional" path to the airlines I'm being made fun of? What makes your way better than mine? Some of you sound like the bigots that I have to put up with in everyday life.

I don't think that anyone is against you. I believe that they are trying to alert you of your "naiveness". I'm positive that there are plenty of 1000TPIC pilots here and the majors are not exactly knocking down the doors to pick these guys up. You want to be at a company with good pay, work rules, and QOL just in case you have to hunker down for a while. One thing that you'll get from JC is that there are plenty people who have been to where you're trying to go. Sometimes you have to really sit back and try to absorb some of the information that they have to offer.

Just an opinion of a lolely freight dawg.

 

[Kristie]

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There is no such thing as a decent regional. I want to get on with the one with the quickest upgrade time so I can get my 1000hr turbine PIC and get on with a major. I'm not going to "wait it out". I've set a goal of being a major airline pilot and I will achieve it as quickly as possible.

you'll need more than 1000 hrs to be competitive for ANY major airline. you definitely need to do more groundwork on this career (aka research).

 

[Tram]

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There is no such thing as a decent regional. I want to get on with the one with the quickest upgrade time so I can get my 1000hr turbine PIC and get on with a major. I'm not going to "wait it out". I've set a goal of being a major airline pilot and I will achieve it as quickly as possible.

I heard and old, old man tell a friend of mine something once when he said something really stupid..

It went sorta like this.. The old man looked at my friend, got this funny look in his eye and said..

"You gots lots ta' learn, sonny boy.."

 

[Tram]

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you'll need more than 1000 hrs to be competitive for ANY major airline. you definitely need to do more groundwork on this career (aka research).

Oh no, Kristie... You'd be amazed how much our ProudPilot knows about the biz...

You'd be surprised how much I do know even with my limited number of logged hours.