mtsu_av8er
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Are you sure? Where's Lloyd?
A while back, I was on a flight back into Nashville. I was sitting next to a woman that just would NOT stop talking to me. I was ready to beat her myself . . .
ExpressJet Baby Removal Update (well, kinda)
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A while back, I was on a flight back into Nashville. I was sitting next to a woman that just would NOT stop talking to me. I was ready to beat her myself . . .
HRDiva
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Where does it ever say that the child was screaming, off the wall, refusing to sit down? All anyone, including the passengers taped, said he did was say in a normal tone of voice, "Bye, bye plane."
That GNA segment aired last week because I saw it. While there are those that find a child going after a shuttle/plane that flew off the table evidence that the mother was unfit and the child was unruly, it is not valid to extrapolate that this meant that he threw a tantrum on the plane.
We'll have to agree to disagree.
IMHO, the crew violated what DH calls the #3 rule: Don't get yourself in the news.
That GNA segment aired last week because I saw it. While there are those that find a child going after a shuttle/plane that flew off the table evidence that the mother was unfit and the child was unruly, it is not valid to extrapolate that this meant that he threw a tantrum on the plane.
We'll have to agree to disagree.
IMHO, the crew violated what DH calls the #3 rule: Don't get yourself in the news.
Cruise
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A while back, I was on a flight back into Nashville. I was sitting next to a woman that just would NOT stop talking to me. I was ready to beat her myself . . .
Time to bust out the over-the-ear noise canceling headphones and my SWEEET iPod baby!
Cruise
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Your sweet NEW iPod you got out of the grey bin at the security checkpoint!
EXACTLY, YO!
sorrygottarunway
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EXACTLY, YO!
All I could rummage out of that bin was a pack of listerene strips. Time to start hittin up the mo-money airports.
whaleroast
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Let me guess...single mom?
AngelFuree
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It's funny you say that because I was thinking exactly the same!
killbilly
Vocals, Lyrics, Triangle, Washboard, Kittens
I was fairly vocal in the other thread about misbehaving kids on planes, so in the interest of fairness, I thought I'd post the following...
Flew from DFW down to MCO yesterday afternoon on AA. There was some sort of mx problem which caused us to return to the gate, and there was no A/C during the process. It was about 93 and humid in Dallas, but the airplane wasn't that bad; merely a little warm, but with the shades down and the vents open it was tolerable.
In the row in front of me was a little girl - maybe 2 1/2 to 3 years old. Cute as a button, and excited about going to Disney World. Never whined during the delay, never griped, wasn't too talkative...just being a normal, pretty well-behaved kid. I'd have been okay with her if she'd been my kid, y'know?
I had the aisle, and in the center was a woman...who...well...lets just say that she never missed Moon Pie Monday at the trailer park, and her husband was still reliving Woodstock. He reminded me of what would happen if the Reverend Jim Ignatowski and George Carlin had a kid.
The woman bitched. And moaned. And repeatedly grabbed the seat backs of the people in front of us to hoist her incredibly ample arse up three inches to look out the window (yes raising the shade, letting in light and heat) and then resettling in a huff with another leveraged throw on the seat back.
Capt. was good about updates, said if they can't fix it in another 20 minutes or so they'll let us off the plane. Problem fixed, we left.
I had to concede that some brats continue well into their 40s. The kid was great, but I was ready to perform an exit procedure at FL330 as long as my rowmate went first...<sigh>
Flew from DFW down to MCO yesterday afternoon on AA. There was some sort of mx problem which caused us to return to the gate, and there was no A/C during the process. It was about 93 and humid in Dallas, but the airplane wasn't that bad; merely a little warm, but with the shades down and the vents open it was tolerable.
In the row in front of me was a little girl - maybe 2 1/2 to 3 years old. Cute as a button, and excited about going to Disney World. Never whined during the delay, never griped, wasn't too talkative...just being a normal, pretty well-behaved kid. I'd have been okay with her if she'd been my kid, y'know?
I had the aisle, and in the center was a woman...who...well...lets just say that she never missed Moon Pie Monday at the trailer park, and her husband was still reliving Woodstock. He reminded me of what would happen if the Reverend Jim Ignatowski and George Carlin had a kid.
The woman bitched. And moaned. And repeatedly grabbed the seat backs of the people in front of us to hoist her incredibly ample arse up three inches to look out the window (yes raising the shade, letting in light and heat) and then resettling in a huff with another leveraged throw on the seat back.
Capt. was good about updates, said if they can't fix it in another 20 minutes or so they'll let us off the plane. Problem fixed, we left.
I had to concede that some brats continue well into their 40s. The kid was great, but I was ready to perform an exit procedure at FL330 as long as my rowmate went first...<sigh>
bunghole
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Ehh, personally, I thought the video kind of destroyed the 'poor, innocent victim' image she was trying to maintain.
I'm from a spanking family, but I was probably only spanked twice.
If my mother told us to sit down and be quiet, darnit, we sat down and were quiet because we knew there were consequences to misbehaving, and our parents didn't have an aversion to discipline when needed, on the spot.
I think I turned out ok!
Leather and chains optional?
bunghole
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Its obvious based on the responses of part uno and dos of this thread who stays home to take care of kids and who doesnt want to stay home and take care of kids.
Advice for the moms who are active on this thread. Don't take the over abundant sarcasm on this too seriously. It will make ya wanna toss JC out the door when adults(??) joke about beating...throwing...spanking....drugging a toddler. I really see no point in responding to it at all!
As far as the video hurting the mom's case I see nothing further from the truth. It shows that the 'toddler' is 'normal' and the adult reactions where also 'normal' I didnt Sawyer or anyone else on the show providing benadryl or attempting to spank the child into submission. In fact he looked pretty darn calm when held by someone else for the moment.
Bottom line.....ExpressJet needs to revise their F/A training so that when these circumstances do arise then act professionally! Especially with toddlers. As I said before in other threads there is a major consensus on the poor and inadequate customer service onboard planes now days. Yes...I know there are some very dedicated and talented F/As but sadly its few and far between. We are paying more...getting less!
P.S. With all this feedback I bet Doug can't wait to pop out a few kids now!
Advice for the moms who are active on this thread. Don't take the over abundant sarcasm on this too seriously. It will make ya wanna toss JC out the door when adults(??) joke about beating...throwing...spanking....drugging a toddler. I really see no point in responding to it at all!
As far as the video hurting the mom's case I see nothing further from the truth. It shows that the 'toddler' is 'normal' and the adult reactions where also 'normal' I didnt Sawyer or anyone else on the show providing benadryl or attempting to spank the child into submission. In fact he looked pretty darn calm when held by someone else for the moment.
Bottom line.....ExpressJet needs to revise their F/A training so that when these circumstances do arise then act professionally! Especially with toddlers. As I said before in other threads there is a major consensus on the poor and inadequate customer service onboard planes now days. Yes...I know there are some very dedicated and talented F/As but sadly its few and far between. We are paying more...getting less!
P.S. With all this feedback I bet Doug can't wait to pop out a few kids now!
staplegun
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I was doing long division and reciting Descartes theorem at 14 months...
Slacker!!!
I had already composed my second symphony and was advising Al Dulles on the Cuban situation at that age...
Kevin
killbilly
Vocals, Lyrics, Triangle, Washboard, Kittens
Cruise
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P.S. With all this feedback I bet Doug can't wait to pop out a few kids now!
I'd be really interested in seeing Dough pop out a kid. Bet he would too.
On a side note.....nice avi Bunghole.
tonyw
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ready2fly
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:yeahthat::yeahthat::yeahthat:100% YEP!A parent's thoughts:
Taking a 19 month old on a morning news program is a bad idea. Why? Because the kid is 1000 miles from home, in a strange environment, surrounded by strangers and bright lights and very, very out of his/her element. There's no way you can expect a kid of 19 months to be a perfect angel in a situation like that. I really think bringing the kid to the interview was just a bad idea to begin with.
They gave the kid a toy (the shuttle/airplane) and as the kid was playing with it, rolling it along the table (as a kid would do) it rolls off. Now the cool new toy is in sight, but out of reach. Of course he's going to cry! How about picking up the plane and giving it back? He was looking right at the plane on the floor as he was crawling on the table.
Keep in mind this kid is 19 months old, he's not a 5 year old with a 5 year old's ability to sit and listen and follow direction.
I think it was a bad idea to have the kid on the interview in the first place. 19 months is a hard age, they're not a "baby" anymore, but they don't have the full capacity and control of a older tot (say 3-ish).
As for what happened on the airplane, I'm still waiting to hear both sides. I have no doubt the kid could have been a monster, and I also have no doubt the F/A could have been on a massive power trip.
I take my kids out in public, and they have good days and bad days. On the bad days, if they're causing a scene, we leave the situation. Age-appropriate measures are then taken to help them understand what behavior is and is not appropriate. I could see my 2 1/2 year old having a fit if put in a situation like being on an early-morning TV show (that's why I'd never take him on a morning TV show!). It's part of his personality, and yes, children's personalities differ
Well I have to agree with Michelle, Amber and HRDiva, but then I'm the mother of 2 sons.
So far I have not seen any reason for this woman and her son to be removed from the aircraft. I also do not think that the boy's behavior on the set of GMA was abnormal either. He looked like a normal typical little boy to me. Hell, I've been plenty squirmy myself as an adult on movie sets! Do you know how long it sometimes takes to set up shots, lights, camera angles, the sound adjusted right, everyones hair and make up perfect (with frequent stops to get the shine off of someones face)? Also, if that segment was shot during their normal shoot, do you realize what time of the morning the cameras start to roll and what time that little boy was probably dragged out of bed?
No, none of us were there to see how the little boy really behaved, but ponder this - So far passengers have publically come to the defense of the mother and child, but have any come to the defense of the FA's side of the story? Kids have to be really out of control to bother me, but I sure as hell have seen many obnoxious, drunk, smelly adults that should have been kicked off of flights!
So far I have not seen any reason for this woman and her son to be removed from the aircraft. I also do not think that the boy's behavior on the set of GMA was abnormal either. He looked like a normal typical little boy to me. Hell, I've been plenty squirmy myself as an adult on movie sets! Do you know how long it sometimes takes to set up shots, lights, camera angles, the sound adjusted right, everyones hair and make up perfect (with frequent stops to get the shine off of someones face)? Also, if that segment was shot during their normal shoot, do you realize what time of the morning the cameras start to roll and what time that little boy was probably dragged out of bed?
No, none of us were there to see how the little boy really behaved, but ponder this - So far passengers have publically come to the defense of the mother and child, but have any come to the defense of the FA's side of the story? Kids have to be really out of control to bother me, but I sure as hell have seen many obnoxious, drunk, smelly adults that should have been kicked off of flights!
Slacker!!!
I had already composed my second symphony and was advising Al Dulles on the Cuban situation at that age...
Kevin
Braggart!
Yeah well, you may have been advising Al Dulles on the Cuban situation, but I'd already started my Cuban import business...:bandit: ...and I was playing your second symphony flawlessy on the piano...
FlyChicaga
Vintage Restoration
I think it's wrong to condemn either side in this issue, because it is pretty clear to me that the media is twisting the story to their benefit. Face it, the airlines are a huge scapegoat right now, and it is popular in the media to make us look like the bad guy. This story is a great way to do it.
Problem is, the general public will never know the real story, and you'd find the real story to be nothing like this Mother is describing.
Problem is, the general public will never know the real story, and you'd find the real story to be nothing like this Mother is describing.