ETOPS approval process

[J777Fly]

Hi, Can some clarify this

If your airline is not ETOPS approved, does this mean you have to fly all routes within 60 minutes of a diversion airport?

And how long does ETOPS approval take to achieve?

thanks

 

[BobDDuck]

Hi, Can some clarify this

If your airline is not ETOPS approved, does this mean you have to fly all routes within 60 minutes of a diversion airport?

And how long does ETOPS approval take to achieve?

thanks

There are other waivers you can get that give you more than 60 minutes (or 50 miles off shore), but they don't give you a whole lot.

ETOPS can take a long, long, (very long), time if it's you're company's first go at it. It can be pretty painless though if all the pieces are already in place.

 

[wheelsup]

Correct me if I'm wrong. Depending on equipment carried, it's:

50 miles from land
100/162 miles from land depending on latitude
One hour at cruise speed single engine (400 miles for my plane IIRC) from land
ETOPS which is something I don't really know about yet.

 

[Seggy]

Some manly aircraft have 330 minute ETOPS.

 

[Ajax]

Some manly aircraft have 330 minute ETOPS.

Looking at the ETOPS 330 map is absolutely insane

 

[Seggy]

It gives you a lot of time to think 'what else can go wrong'.

 

[CFIscare]

Some manly aircraft have 330 minute ETOPS.

I thought a manly aircraft involved turboprops and a lack of an autopilot?

 

[Autothrust Blue]

I thought a manly aircraft involved turboprops and a lack of an autopilot?

If it has an FO, it has an autopilot.

 

[Seggy]

It the type rating starts with an 'A' or 'B' it is manly.

 

[KSCessnaDriver]

It the type rating starts with an 'A' or 'B' it is manly.

No love for the Long Beach products...

 

[BobDDuck]

No love for the Long Beach products...

I was going to say... I think the DC-6/7/8/9 type pretty much puts to shame any A or B (after maybe 727) types out there.

 

[Seggy]

Good point. 'A', 'B', or 'D'*









*except mirrors are needed by the 'D' products. I have the confidence to know I always look good.

 

[derg]

*except mirrors are needed by the 'D' products. I have the confidence to know I always look good.

 

[Seggy]

I've heard of 'mom jeans' but never dad pants. Must be @ATN_Pilot trying to compensate.

 

[derg]

You know what dad pants are. Come on! Do you wear relaxed-fit jeans, polo shirt tucked in, beltless with white tennis shoes?

It's alright man!

 

[Seggy]

No I don't wear any of that.

 

[derg]

No I don't wear any of that.

I hope not.

But we're waiting. Because one day, you'll realize how convenient tennis shoes are, how comfortable loose-fit jeans or weekend chinos are and, well, all the other dads are doing it.

"I'm not selling out, fellas, I'm buying in. There's a difference!"

 

[jtrain609]

I hope not.

But we're waiting. Because one day, you'll realize how convenient tennis shoes are, how comfortable loose-fit jeans or weekend chinos are and, well, all the other dads are doing it.

"I'm not selling out, fellas, I'm buying in. There's a difference!"

I ate at Chilis on the overnight.

AND LIKED IT.

 

[Seggy]

I hope not.

But we're waiting. Because one day, you'll realize how convenient tennis shoes are, how comfortable loose-fit jeans or weekend chinos are and, well, all the other dads are doing it.

"I'm not selling out, fellas, I'm buying in. There's a difference!"

Never.

 

[Seggy]

I ate at Chilis on the overnight.

AND LIKED IT.

I just puked.